Is my Luger jammed?

Enoch · 09-01-2011, 01:18 PM

Here's an image of the safety side. I'm afraid providing an image of the gun minus the grip will have to wait until this weekend when I'll have time to disassemble it.

Enoch · 09-01-2011, 01:37 PM

Stupid question - Is the reason I can't slide the slide because the safety is engaged (down position)? And does that then mean that the slide is working fine (it shouldn't go back because it's not supposed to when the safety is engaged) and my real problem is that the safety mechanism is jammed? In other words once I get the safety to disengage the slide will slide back. Sorry, this is all rocket science to me.

Xerato · 09-01-2011, 02:23 PM

Seeking clarification on this point:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enoch

Is the reason I can't slide the slide because the safety is engaged (down position)?

Is this actually the case, that having the safety-on prevents the toggle from being worked?
Because I have noticed this on my Luger: sometimes, I can't pull the toggle all the way when safety is on, other times it is not a problem. Is this a sign of mis-assembly, or is this by design?

I ask because I can't see any mechanism or reason that would prevent the toggle from raising when the safety is on, but that's the way it behaves.

Xerato · 09-01-2011, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enoch

Is the reason I can't slide the slide because the safety is engaged (down position)?

I found some additional info on this. I noticed this seems to only be a problem when I am cleaning the gun or dry-firing it, I never noticed this problem when live-firing.
This I found on another forum explains why:

http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...4653#post84653

Quote:

Your pistol is acting correct. You should not be able to rack it open if the firing pin is not cocked and the safety is on.

In this configuration the safety bar keeps the sear bar from moving outward when the firing pin moves rearward.

With the firing pin non cocked watch the sear bar as you pull back the toggle. It moves out due to the lug on the firing pin passing under it. When it is cocked the lug is already behind the the sear bar so it will not move outward and bind.

Jerry

I don't know if this information is correct or not, but sounds like exactly the problem I have been seeing: if I dry-fire the pistol, then put it on safe, I cannot open the toggle.

Enoch · 09-01-2011, 02:42 PM

Sounds like exactly what is happening with mine. As I mentioned earlier, this was one of my father's prized possesions and while I never do anything with it (I practically never touch it) I do keep it oiled and check it once or twice a year to make sure it's not rusting or otherwise deteriorating. Now I guess I need to figure out why the safety is stuck.

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09-01-2011, 01:37 PM	#2
Enoch User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Stupid question - Is the reason I can't slide the slide because the safety is engaged (down position)? And does that then mean that the slide is working fine (it shouldn't go back because it's not supposed to when the safety is engaged) and my real problem is that the safety mechanism is jammed? In other words once I get the safety to disengage the slide will slide back. Sorry, this is all rocket science to me.

09-01-2011, 02:42 PM	#5
Enoch User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sounds like exactly what is happening with mine. As I mentioned earlier, this was one of my father's prized possesions and while I never do anything with it (I practically never touch it) I do keep it oiled and check it once or twice a year to make sure it's not rusting or otherwise deteriorating. Now I guess I need to figure out why the safety is stuck.