an Erfurt came to visit

Edward Tinker · 08-29-2011, 10:21 AM

Gene, you are essentially correct, the 2nd markings sound like police markings, but would need to look at them.

WW1 Erfurt, that received the 1920 property marking and then possibly used by the police.

does it have a sear safety (above the sideplate there would be either a slot cut on the top of the sideplate or a dog-leg bar that runs from it back to the rear)

Extra mags worth almost nothing, the shoulder holster, usually not worth much, $25-$100 depending on how it looks and what it started as... Not having original grips is also a detractor, unless they look decent, but most folks want original or original looking on their luger. Figure $20-$40 for replacements screws and if the grip screws holes were made larger, another detractor.

Being 'parkerized' hurts the value, most likely worth from about $450-$700, probably in the middle, depending on how it looks, but with the above, I would not want to pay a lot more than $450 for it.

Ed

WG dog · 08-29-2011, 01:02 PM

Thanks, Ed. I'd heard about this Luger from the son for a couple years. He had not seen it for a long time, and did not know the maker or condition. It was hidden away. I was hoping it was a minty Krieghoff or something cool that would bring in a nice chunk of money for the family. Looking at the changes to the Luger, at least the guy used it and had fun with it.

Trying to describe the unit markings more. Both read from bottom of grip up towards trigger guard. The higher, crossed over, marking of B.O. II. 363 has the numbers 363 slightly smaller than the B. O. II. The S.B.14398.S. marking has numbers about ½ the size of the letters.

Don't see signs of sear safety, no slot or dog leg bar. There are two long shallow grooves in the metal running back from the top edge of the sideplate to the rear, barely visible under the park, maybe a sign something was there in the past.

The toggle does not stay up on an empty magazine. Don't know if that is correct, or a sign of another problem, missing or broken hold open.

Gene

08-29-2011, 10:21 AM	#1
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,974 Thanks: 2,072 Thanked 4,607 Times in 2,123 Posts	Gene, you are essentially correct, the 2nd markings sound like police markings, but would need to look at them. WW1 Erfurt, that received the 1920 property marking and then possibly used by the police. does it have a sear safety (above the sideplate there would be either a slot cut on the top of the sideplate or a dog-leg bar that runs from it back to the rear) Extra mags worth almost nothing, the shoulder holster, usually not worth much, $25-$100 depending on how it looks and what it started as... Not having original grips is also a detractor, unless they look decent, but most folks want original or original looking on their luger. Figure $20-$40 for replacements screws and if the grip screws holes were made larger, another detractor. Being 'parkerized' hurts the value, most likely worth from about $450-$700, probably in the middle, depending on how it looks, but with the above, I would not want to pay a lot more than $450 for it. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

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08-29-2011, 01:02 PM	#2
WG dog Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 142 Thanks: 1,282 Thanked 37 Times in 24 Posts	Thanks, Ed. I'd heard about this Luger from the son for a couple years. He had not seen it for a long time, and did not know the maker or condition. It was hidden away. I was hoping it was a minty Krieghoff or something cool that would bring in a nice chunk of money for the family. Looking at the changes to the Luger, at least the guy used it and had fun with it. Trying to describe the unit markings more. Both read from bottom of grip up towards trigger guard. The higher, crossed over, marking of B.O. II. 363 has the numbers 363 slightly smaller than the B. O. II. The S.B.14398.S. marking has numbers about ½ the size of the letters. Don't see signs of sear safety, no slot or dog leg bar. There are two long shallow grooves in the metal running back from the top edge of the sideplate to the rear, barely visible under the park, maybe a sign something was there in the past. The toggle does not stay up on an empty magazine. Don't know if that is correct, or a sign of another problem, missing or broken hold open. Gene