BYF 42 2245k

Norme · 08-09-2011, 02:36 PM

Hi Rich, Thanks for those additional photos, unfortunately they don't quite show the area I'd like to examine. For your benefit, and for others that are confused about the Mauser "hump", here is a short primer.
The original P08's made by DWM and Erfurt in WW1 had frames that looked like the first photo, at the back. The P08's produced by Mauser and Krieghoff from 1934 on, were lengthened 1mm at the back, to prevent the rear toggle pin from drifting leftwards at full recoil and jamming the gun. This was necessary because of the hotter ammo in use at the time, see second photo. In 1937, Mauser, for reasons known only to themselves, started milling away the lower part of the frame rear, thus forming the "hump", third photo.
Back to your gun, Rich. I believe it has a DWM frame, renumbered to match the 1942 Mauser top half. Best regards, Norm

richie301 · 08-09-2011, 03:15 PM

Now I understand, here is the photo you wanted. What do the characters on the front grip strap indicate, 1/P1.2.6.

sheepherder · 08-09-2011, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richie301

What do the characters on the front grip strap indicate, 1/P1.2.6.

They indicate the unit the weapon was assigned to...

(No, I don't know what unit that is...)

pitsword · 08-09-2011, 08:54 PM

Steve, at ease..as you were!

pitsword · 08-09-2011, 08:55 PM

QUOTE=pitsword;199492]Steve, at ease..as you were![/QUOTE]

Norme · 08-09-2011, 09:18 PM

Hi Rich (richie301), Those grip strap markings look like Weimar era unit marks to me, but since that's outside my field, I can't help. We do have a couple of Weimar specialists on the forum who might chime in.
Hi Rich (postino), By coincidence the subject of byf toggle chamfers was discussed recently on the other forum. It seems that the change to the wide chamfer occurred towards the end of 1941. Regards, Norm

A.Mifsin · 08-10-2011, 04:54 AM

Hi Norme, the middle byf Luger it looks it is darker blue, is it the photo or they were made like this.

I have bought a byf-41 and although I have not recieved it yet on inspection I noticed that is a bit more darker than what I think it should be and I bought it as "original blueing."
I will post pictures as soon as I have it.
Alf.

08-09-2011, 02:36 PM	#1
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Rich, Thanks for those additional photos, unfortunately they don't quite show the area I'd like to examine. For your benefit, and for others that are confused about the Mauser "hump", here is a short primer. The original P08's made by DWM and Erfurt in WW1 had frames that looked like the first photo, at the back. The P08's produced by Mauser and Krieghoff from 1934 on, were lengthened 1mm at the back, to prevent the rear toggle pin from drifting leftwards at full recoil and jamming the gun. This was necessary because of the hotter ammo in use at the time, see second photo. In 1937, Mauser, for reasons known only to themselves, started milling away the lower part of the frame rear, thus forming the "hump", third photo. Back to your gun, Rich. I believe it has a DWM frame, renumbered to match the 1942 Mauser top half. Best regards, Norm Attached Thumbnails

08-09-2011, 03:15 PM	#2
richie301 User Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks, no hump Now I understand, here is the photo you wanted. What do the characters on the front grip strap indicate, 1/P1.2.6. Attached Thumbnails

08-09-2011, 09:18 PM	#6
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Rich (richie301), Those grip strap markings look like Weimar era unit marks to me, but since that's outside my field, I can't help. We do have a couple of Weimar specialists on the forum who might chime in. Hi Rich (postino), By coincidence the subject of byf toggle chamfers was discussed recently on the other forum. It seems that the change to the wide chamfer occurred towards the end of 1941. Regards, Norm Attached Thumbnails

08-10-2011, 04:54 AM	#7
A.Mifsin User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 570 Thanks: 74 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Hi Norme, the middle byf Luger it looks it is darker blue, is it the photo or they were made like this. I have bought a byf-41 and although I have not recieved it yet on inspection I noticed that is a bit more darker than what I think it should be and I bought it as "original blueing." I will post pictures as soon as I have it. Alf. __________________ I prefer a Luger

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Switch to Linear Mode Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

08-09-2011, 08:54 PM	#4
pitsword User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 459 Thanks: 3,964 Thanked 103 Times in 83 Posts	Steve, at ease..as you were!

08-09-2011, 08:55 PM	#5
pitsword User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 459 Thanks: 3,964 Thanked 103 Times in 83 Posts	QUOTE=pitsword;199492]Steve, at ease..as you were![/QUOTE]