LugerMan Restoration Services

Ben M. · 05-14-2011, 09:43 PM

If you send a Luger to a restoration artist, doesn't he have enough collateral from you in the fact that he has your Luger and would not have to return it until you paid him for his work.

Also, if he has your Luger in hand, why can't a price for all the agreed upon work be agreed to ahead of time ? Why does the work have to be 100% completed before the artist lets you know what the final-price might be.

It sounds like a contractor telling you a kitchen remodel will cost you $ 20,000...but he then tells you it will be $ 25,000 after the work is done for no reason caused by the homeowner.

I guess each fellow in this business can decide how he does the transaction, but the way Mr. Danner is reportedly doing his work seems the way I would choose if I needed a Luger redone.

Mr. Danner's work seems to be of excellent quality and his customer service seems to get high marks too.

(LugerMan's work is amatueristic if you have seen his stuff in person at gun shows.)

sheepherder · 05-14-2011, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben M.

(LugerMan's work is amatueristic if you have seen his stuff in person at gun shows.)

Ben, could you elaborate on this a bit, please? I've only seen his work in pics; on his site, in junglejim's thread, and in another thread whose author I've forgotten...never up close & personal...

Ben M. · 05-15-2011, 10:24 AM

Postino,

I have seen runs in the bluing (like paint runs) and he leaves sanding lines in the ear portions of the frame that should not be there.

How would you like your Broomhandle to come back to you with the "Mausfr" stamping...as it did in one other member's case.

For about the same money, Danner's work is superior and he makes his delivery promises, period.

Why get stressed out for over a year, send numerous emails with no replies or promises never kept, and start to get lawyers involved when there are other options.

Thor and LugerMan would just not be the guys I would use.

LugerMan.com · 02-09-2012, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben M.

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(LugerMan's work is amatueristic if you have seen his stuff in person at gun shows.)

I have seen runs in the bluing (like paint runs) and he leaves sanding lines in the ear portions of the frame that should not be there.

How would you like your Broomhandle to come back to you with the "Mausfr" stamping...as it did in one other member's case.

Hi,

First of all.. i have never been to a single gun show... so i wonder if the example you have seen is a LugerMan.com work.

Second: I do not recall ever leaving 1/2 the mauser logo and not restoring it... and if you know the owner, let him know if that gun was ever in my shop for restoration and i did that, i will fix it for him free of charge.

3ed: same goes for any imperfections of the finish... I have never had a client that had a complaint about any of the work that was not taken back and fixed .. most were in the beginning of my career as a restore in 2002-2003.

Now days this type of problems get corrected before they ever see the light of day.

So please pass this to anyone owner of the restorations that i did ... i stand behind my restorations and any problems will get fixed for free, even for a 10 year old job.

Thanks.

sheepherder · 02-09-2012, 08:17 PM

Eugene -

I think this is the pic Ben M referred to...

It's from junglejim's thread -

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=21822

LugerMan.com · 02-09-2012, 10:09 PM

Aha.. i see

This one was an actual Mauser made mistake... I did not have to do anything on this one, it was deep and clean just a bottom of the E broke on the stamp.

I did not feel i needed to correct history in this case.

But, this very picture was presented to the customer before shipping, like with all my restorations.

And all comments and changes were welcomed at that time...

If this w'd have been your gun and you'd want history corrected i w'd done it without second guessing it.

If i'd have to restore that stamp, it w'd have all the details correct on it.

Thanks.

LugerMan.com · 02-09-2012, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben M.

If you send a Luger to a restoration artist, doesn't he have enough collateral from you in the fact that he has your Luger and would not have to return it until you paid him for his work.

Hi,
Yes that is correct....
But gun in hand does not = money.
Time spend on restoration and no payment = loss of money.

and = delay for others that are willing to pay.

In this modern day with all the financial problems, some times i ask for a 20-30% deposit from new clients to cover my cost in case i do not see a payment after the job is done in case of restorations

In case of carbine conversions 50% down payment, simply pays for the donor gun and the parts that go on it... and cost of labor is covered at the time of delivery.

Never had to sell someone's gun, and hope will never have to.

Thanks.

02-09-2012, 08:17 PM	#5
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02-09-2012, 10:09 PM	#6
LugerMan.com User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 377 Thanks: 91 Thanked 364 Times in 116 Posts	Mauser stemp Aha.. i see This one was an actual Mauser made mistake... I did not have to do anything on this one, it was deep and clean just a bottom of the E broke on the stamp. I did not feel i needed to correct history in this case. But, this very picture was presented to the customer before shipping, like with all my restorations. And all comments and changes were welcomed at that time... If this w'd have been your gun and you'd want history corrected i w'd done it without second guessing it. If i'd have to restore that stamp, it w'd have all the details correct on it. Thanks.

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05-14-2011, 09:43 PM	#1
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 499 Thanks: 112 Thanked 157 Times in 98 Posts	If you send a Luger to a restoration artist, doesn't he have enough collateral from you in the fact that he has your Luger and would not have to return it until you paid him for his work. Also, if he has your Luger in hand, why can't a price for all the agreed upon work be agreed to ahead of time ? Why does the work have to be 100% completed before the artist lets you know what the final-price might be. It sounds like a contractor telling you a kitchen remodel will cost you $ 20,000...but he then tells you it will be $ 25,000 after the work is done for no reason caused by the homeowner. I guess each fellow in this business can decide how he does the transaction, but the way Mr. Danner is reportedly doing his work seems the way I would choose if I needed a Luger redone. Mr. Danner's work seems to be of excellent quality and his customer service seems to get high marks too. (LugerMan's work is amatueristic if you have seen his stuff in person at gun shows.)

05-15-2011, 10:24 AM	#3
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 499 Thanks: 112 Thanked 157 Times in 98 Posts	Postino, I have seen runs in the bluing (like paint runs) and he leaves sanding lines in the ear portions of the frame that should not be there. How would you like your Broomhandle to come back to you with the "Mausfr" stamping...as it did in one other member's case. For about the same money, Danner's work is superior and he makes his delivery promises, period. Why get stressed out for over a year, send numerous emails with no replies or promises never kept, and start to get lawyers involved when there are other options. Thor and LugerMan would just not be the guys I would use.