LugerMan Restoration Services

Ron Wood · 05-13-2011, 12:49 AM

Harry,
Of course we are not accusing you of lying…just of ranting about a gentleman that you obviously know nothing about. You are a real Boy Scout Harry, protecting all of us dim witted individuals that are willing to pay an honest price for a museum quality restoration and do not expect it to be delivered like a pizza. Your lack of patience is legend. You get all bent out of shape when you do not get same day responses to your posts. You want things that are pretty and you want them right now. Well, things do not always work that way. There are precious few craftsmen capable of world class work and most of them have waiting lists months, if not years, long. I do not doubt that Mr. Danner does wonderful work, and I look forward to seeing some of it firsthand. I am glad you are satisfied with the quality of his refinishing…it looks very nice and I have nothing to say against it.

You have taken great pains and no small amount of snide remarks to point out that Ted takes more time than you are willing to wait to restore Lugers. Big deal. Ted is up front about his schedule and delivery time, and if he expects an upfront investment, it accomplishes a number of things:

-It eliminates tire kickers and lookie-loos…only serious individuals wanting quality work will even consider using his services

-It keeps him from being stuck with a gun that somebody decides they do not want to pay for and he can’t recoup his fee.

-It underscores the fact that he is in a very small and select group of artisans that can legitimately command such upfront investment because they deliver the ultimate in quality.

-It discourages whiners who otherwise would have nothing invested and would feel free to gripe and moan incessantly while the work was being done and would not hesitate to broadcast their lack of patience and childish rants to whomever would listen.

Ted is a gentleman and not deserving of your warnings about his slow delivery. Regardless of the customer, he will tell you himself if he can’t accept a commission because of overload, or that the delivery may well exceed a year in advance. He doesn’t make unreasonable promises just to satisfy an impatient customer. So go ahead, “stick to your guns”…you are shooting blanks. And by the way, there is absolutely no comparison between the work that “Lugerman” and Ted does. It is like comparing an autobody shop paintjob with a quality auto restoration. There is no hypocracy at all.

Kitkat041836 · 05-13-2011, 01:08 AM

Just wanted to thank those who called me to ask for Mr.Danners phone number you will be glad you did.
Thanks Again George
P.S. I have never been paid for a job till it was done. And would not ask for money up front for work I had not yet done.

Ron Wood · 05-13-2011, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitkat041836

P.S. I have never been paid for a job till it was done. And would not ask for money up front for work I had not yet done.

That is your call and I am proud of you...but your experiences and services do not necessarily apply to everyone. Most of the time I do stuff for free. Should I hold you to the same standard?

Kitkat041836 · 05-13-2011, 02:13 AM

Hi Ron
You don't have to I do a lot of things for free also. My question is why pay top dollar in advance and wait a long time, when you can have the same quility for less and have it quicker?
Thanks George
P.S. This is one of the things I do for free,is to help members on this forum get a good deal sooner for less money.

05-13-2011, 12:49 AM	#1
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	Harry, Of course we are not accusing you of lying…just of ranting about a gentleman that you obviously know nothing about. You are a real Boy Scout Harry, protecting all of us dim witted individuals that are willing to pay an honest price for a museum quality restoration and do not expect it to be delivered like a pizza. Your lack of patience is legend. You get all bent out of shape when you do not get same day responses to your posts. You want things that are pretty and you want them right now. Well, things do not always work that way. There are precious few craftsmen capable of world class work and most of them have waiting lists months, if not years, long. I do not doubt that Mr. Danner does wonderful work, and I look forward to seeing some of it firsthand. I am glad you are satisfied with the quality of his refinishing…it looks very nice and I have nothing to say against it. You have taken great pains and no small amount of snide remarks to point out that Ted takes more time than you are willing to wait to restore Lugers. Big deal. Ted is up front about his schedule and delivery time, and if he expects an upfront investment, it accomplishes a number of things: -It eliminates tire kickers and lookie-loos…only serious individuals wanting quality work will even consider using his services -It keeps him from being stuck with a gun that somebody decides they do not want to pay for and he can’t recoup his fee. -It underscores the fact that he is in a very small and select group of artisans that can legitimately command such upfront investment because they deliver the ultimate in quality. -It discourages whiners who otherwise would have nothing invested and would feel free to gripe and moan incessantly while the work was being done and would not hesitate to broadcast their lack of patience and childish rants to whomever would listen. Ted is a gentleman and not deserving of your warnings about his slow delivery. Regardless of the customer, he will tell you himself if he can’t accept a commission because of overload, or that the delivery may well exceed a year in advance. He doesn’t make unreasonable promises just to satisfy an impatient customer. So go ahead, “stick to your guns”…you are shooting blanks. And by the way, there is absolutely no comparison between the work that “Lugerman” and Ted does. It is like comparing an autobody shop paintjob with a quality auto restoration. There is no hypocracy at all. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

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05-13-2011, 01:08 AM	#2
Kitkat041836 RIP Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 195 Thanks: 0 Thanked 21 Times in 18 Posts	Just wanted to thank those who called me to ask for Mr.Danners phone number you will be glad you did. Thanks Again George P.S. I have never been paid for a job till it was done. And would not ask for money up front for work I had not yet done.

05-13-2011, 02:13 AM	#4
Kitkat041836 RIP Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 195 Thanks: 0 Thanked 21 Times in 18 Posts	Hi Ron You don't have to I do a lot of things for free also. My question is why pay top dollar in advance and wait a long time, when you can have the same quility for less and have it quicker? Thanks George P.S. This is one of the things I do for free,is to help members on this forum get a good deal sooner for less money.