The Real Herman Goering Personal Pistol

azlaw · 05-14-2010, 07:45 PM

I did not know this...

alvin · 05-14-2010, 08:32 PM

M&P, isn't that same as postwar S&W Model 10 ?

Model 10 is also my favorite S&W, a very cool revolver.

Carl · 05-14-2010, 09:06 PM

Years ago (about 40) I met a man who was present when Goering surrendered. He was a young 2nd Lt attached to S2. The Smith was given to his Capt. In comes a Col who says I'll take that. Fortunately he donated it to West Point, where it can be seen today.

Carl

suum cuique · 05-14-2010, 09:47 PM

It really makes me wonder why HG carried a S&W.
Well, he had an IQ of 135, he must have a reason for that.

rolandtg · 05-14-2010, 11:53 PM

Maybe because he wanted a pistol that he knew would absolutely, positively work every single time he pulled the trigger.

Lugerdoc · 05-15-2010, 10:58 AM

I believe that I may still have a holster in stock like the one in the above photo, that has German police markings inside. What German made police revolver would this be for? TH

Douglas Jr. · 05-16-2010, 04:25 PM

If I remember correctly, the gun was given to him as a gift before the war.
I think you will like to see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2TXL5MjB6I

Mauser720 · 05-16-2010, 04:45 PM

"It really makes me wonder why HG carried a S&W.
Well, he had an IQ of 135, he must have a reason for that." - suum cuique

I will venture a guess: Goering had a flair for the dramatic, which included designing his own unique uniforms. His choice of a revolver only added to the impression that he was something special. And this kind of attitude is not unknown among flag rank officers. In America, Patton had his own pearl handled revolvers that he carried. And MacArthur chose to be frequently seen with a long stemmed cob pipe which was specially made for him in a small plant in Missouri. So it was probably not so much that the revolver was more dependable as it was a way to create the impression that Goering chose to make.

alanint · 05-16-2010, 06:16 PM

Ron,
To paraphrase Patton himself;
"The grips are ivory, not pearl. Only a pimp in a New Orleans whorehouse would carry a pearl
handled revolver"

Mauser720 · 05-16-2010, 06:45 PM

Alanint -

By golly you are right! I had totally forgotten about that.

Thanks

Douglas Jr. · 05-18-2010, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lugerdoc

I believe that I may still have a holster in stock like the one in the above photo, that has German police markings inside. What German made police revolver would this be for? TH

Tom,

Germans captured a good amount of Spanish and American revolvers that were used by the French during WWI that were still in use/storage when France fell in 1940. I have a color picture of a German using a S&W-like revolver (could be a Spanish Orbea as well)...

Douglas

Curly1 · 05-23-2010, 12:35 PM

Just watched episode 19 of The World at War and there was a clip of a German general surrendering what looked like a S&W revolver. Cuda been a 1917 45acp.

Any body else see that?

minigun · 05-23-2010, 10:07 PM

I'll bet it there was no reason at all why he carried it, other than he probably "just liked it". It was his enemy's gun, so like we wanted Lugers, he kept his that he was awarded.

Went Blakely · 05-29-2010, 07:08 AM

Very interesting thread!

azlaw · 05-29-2010, 03:56 PM

Here is a link to an very interesting story of the capture of Goering. The author says that he personally took Goering's pistol, but comments only that that he was disappointed that it wasn't gold.

Capture of Goering

05-14-2010, 07:45 PM	#1
azlaw User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 207 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	The Real Herman Goering Personal Pistol I did not know this...

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Carl User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Central PA Posts: 113 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts	Story Years ago (about 40) I met a man who was present when Goering surrendered. He was a young 2nd Lt attached to S2. The Smith was given to his Capt. In comes a Col who says I'll take that. Fortunately he donated it to West Point, where it can be seen today. Carl

05-14-2010, 09:47 PM	#4
suum cuique User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD / Currently about 9000 klicks east of the Potomac Posts: 497 Thanks: 108 Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts	It really makes me wonder why HG carried a S&W. Well, he had an IQ of 135, he must have a reason for that. Attached Images __________________ Regards, Andy There's No Place Like Home (Wizard Of Oz)

05-15-2010, 10:58 AM	#6
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	I believe that I may still have a holster in stock like the one in the above photo, that has German police markings inside. What German made police revolver would this be for? TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

05-16-2010, 04:45 PM	#8
Mauser720 User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 535 Thanks: 18 Thanked 49 Times in 33 Posts	"It really makes me wonder why HG carried a S&W. Well, he had an IQ of 135, he must have a reason for that." - suum cuique I will venture a guess: Goering had a flair for the dramatic, which included designing his own unique uniforms. His choice of a revolver only added to the impression that he was something special. And this kind of attitude is not unknown among flag rank officers. In America, Patton had his own pearl handled revolvers that he carried. And MacArthur chose to be frequently seen with a long stemmed cob pipe which was specially made for him in a small plant in Missouri. So it was probably not so much that the revolver was more dependable as it was a way to create the impression that Goering chose to make. __________________ Mauser720 - Ron "Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it."

05-14-2010, 08:32 PM	#2
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	M&P, isn't that same as postwar S&W Model 10 ? Model 10 is also my favorite S&W, a very cool revolver.

05-14-2010, 11:53 PM	#5
rolandtg User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 479 Thanks: 389 Thanked 265 Times in 114 Posts	Maybe because he wanted a pistol that he knew would absolutely, positively work every single time he pulled the trigger.

05-16-2010, 04:25 PM	#7
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	If I remember correctly, the gun was given to him as a gift before the war. I think you will like to see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2TXL5MjB6I

05-16-2010, 06:16 PM	#9
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Ron, To paraphrase Patton himself; "The grips are ivory, not pearl. Only a pimp in a New Orleans whorehouse would carry a pearl handled revolver"

05-16-2010, 06:45 PM	#10
Mauser720 User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 535 Thanks: 18 Thanked 49 Times in 33 Posts	Alanint - By golly you are right! I had totally forgotten about that. Thanks __________________ Mauser720 - Ron "Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it."

05-23-2010, 12:35 PM	#12
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,247 Thanks: 125 Thanked 717 Times in 374 Posts	Just watched episode 19 of The World at War and there was a clip of a German general surrendering what looked like a S&W revolver. Cuda been a 1917 45acp. Any body else see that? __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

05-23-2010, 10:07 PM	#13
minigun User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 424 Thanks: 16 Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts	I'll bet it there was no reason at all why he carried it, other than he probably "just liked it". It was his enemy's gun, so like we wanted Lugers, he kept his that he was awarded.

05-29-2010, 07:08 AM	#14
Went Blakely User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 231 Thanks: 4 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	Very interesting thread! __________________ Went Blakely

05-29-2010, 03:56 PM	#15
azlaw User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 207 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Here is a link to an very interesting story of the capture of Goering. The author says that he personally took Goering's pistol, but comments only that that he was disappointed that it wasn't gold. Capture of Goering

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