Apparently my C&R isn't good enough...

Ron Smith · 03-08-2010, 09:55 PM

A lot of dealer's take issue with a C&R. They consider C&Rs as depriving them of their transfer fees. So they refuse to accept them under any circumstances. Legally they have the right to do so, but it's a CS thing to do IMO.

135C/C · 03-09-2010, 09:25 PM

Well, I got my answer:

"it has always been my store policy not to accept curio and relics, keeps us
from possiblility of mistakes, sorry for your inconvenience will be glad to
relist gun if you do not wan't to purchase...."

This is after sending him a respectful, well written e-mail saying that considering the auction didn't specifically say "No C&R", I assumed a C&R would be good for a 92 year old gun, that I would be more than happy to send him a copy of my D.L. to confirm the address and even my Military Retiree I.D. and my current D.O.D. employee I.D. if he wanted.

It seems a bit silly/pathetic that he's fraid of making a mistake with a transaction as straightforward as this.

It's a 1918 DWM (w/ police safety sear installed), that looks to be in very good shape, to my admittedly novice eye the grips appear to NOT be aftermarket, supposedly matching numbers (not sure if it includes the grips), and comes with a fair condition police holster (converted from military), takedown/loading tool and 2 magazines. I think I got a pretty good deal for $900, but am considering whether or not to tell him "forget it" and just get my money back out of principle.

Don't know.....I'll have to sleep on it I guess

alvin · 03-10-2010, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 135C/C

I think I got a pretty good deal for $900

I agree with Ed. After all, you feel the price is good, and the seller does not feel losing your transaction being a big deal -- he could easily sell it to someone else, probably at higher price.

No reason to play emotionally on this. Pay $20 to a dealer to transfer if you like it.

Norme · 03-10-2010, 08:24 AM

I'm with Ed and Alvin. Sometimes you just have to hold your nose and do the deal. Remember, it's not personal, it's business. Regards, Norm

135C/C · 03-10-2010, 05:38 PM

I'm thinking you guys hit it on the head by guessing they don't take C&R's just to make it difficult on those that they think are costing "real" FFL's business.

Called them up and they said there was "a lot of checks and extra paperwork" they had to go through for a C&R. I tried telling him otherwise until I was blue in the face. I asked him why they didn't state "No C&R's" on the auction and he claimed they had "never seen one before". I ended the conversation being that I couldn't "hold my watch up" any higher. Like I said before, it looks like a good deal so I held my nose, forced the bile back down, and told them to ship it. The FFL I use in town couldn't believe their "stuff" either and used a few of the same adjectives I did in referring to the seller.

Yet ..........they shipped the gun U.S. Mail "Priority"........doesn't sound like they know much at all about the law when it comes to C&R's does it (that was sarcasm BTW)?

They go by "unitedpawn" on GunBroker and they're out of Jonesboro, Arkansas for future reference.

...okay, I'm done...just had to get that off my chest. I'll post pics in the "Military" forum when I get it for opinions on "how I did".

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03-09-2010, 09:25 PM	#2
135C/C User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Central Kansas Posts: 18 Thanks: 14 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well, I got my answer: "it has always been my store policy not to accept curio and relics, keeps us from possiblility of mistakes, sorry for your inconvenience will be glad to relist gun if you do not wan't to purchase...." This is after sending him a respectful, well written e-mail saying that considering the auction didn't specifically say "No C&R", I assumed a C&R would be good for a 92 year old gun, that I would be more than happy to send him a copy of my D.L. to confirm the address and even my Military Retiree I.D. and my current D.O.D. employee I.D. if he wanted. It seems a bit silly/pathetic that he's fraid of making a mistake with a transaction as straightforward as this. It's a 1918 DWM (w/ police safety sear installed), that looks to be in very good shape, to my admittedly novice eye the grips appear to NOT be aftermarket, supposedly matching numbers (not sure if it includes the grips), and comes with a fair condition police holster (converted from military), takedown/loading tool and 2 magazines. I think I got a pretty good deal for $900, but am considering whether or not to tell him "forget it" and just get my money back out of principle. Don't know.....I'll have to sleep on it I guess

03-10-2010, 08:24 AM	#4
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	I'm with Ed and Alvin. Sometimes you just have to hold your nose and do the deal. Remember, it's not personal, it's business. Regards, Norm

03-10-2010, 05:38 PM	#5
135C/C User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Central Kansas Posts: 18 Thanks: 14 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm thinking you guys hit it on the head by guessing they don't take C&R's just to make it difficult on those that they think are costing "real" FFL's business. Called them up and they said there was "a lot of checks and extra paperwork" they had to go through for a C&R. I tried telling him otherwise until I was blue in the face. I asked him why they didn't state "No C&R's" on the auction and he claimed they had "never seen one before". I ended the conversation being that I couldn't "hold my watch up" any higher. Like I said before, it looks like a good deal so I held my nose, forced the bile back down, and told them to ship it. The FFL I use in town couldn't believe their "stuff" either and used a few of the same adjectives I did in referring to the seller. Yet ..........they shipped the gun U.S. Mail "Priority"........doesn't sound like they know much at all about the law when it comes to C&R's does it (that was sarcasm BTW)? They go by "unitedpawn" on GunBroker and they're out of Jonesboro, Arkansas for future reference. ...okay, I'm done...just had to get that off my chest. I'll post pics in the "Military" forum when I get it for opinions on "how I did".