Close-up picture of "Made in Japan"

[laoshi75]

I don't want to modify this interesting thread, devoted to a
wonderfull and mint Astra into an Oriental linguistic debate, so this posting will be my last contribution on the problem. Even if the subject of the thread is precisely "Close-up picture of "Made in Japan".

Postino,

Sorry, the 3 Hanzi on your Mauser M1930 mean: "Made in Germany" (De-Guo-Zhi) as pictured on the photo below, and not "Chinese contract".

Alwin,

I agree with the first part of your reasonment, but not with the last one. As you know, the Hanzi "ri" is historically the traditionnal name of Japan in Chinese writting (and I believe in Japanese writting too) as pictured on the second photo below. It is unbelievable that they took precisely this historical Hanzi to translate the word "Spain" for... the Japanese market !

I note that Germany and Spain had two different stamping logics here:
The Mauser M1930 has the stamp "made in Germany" since
Germany is easy to translate in chinese (De-guo).
The spanish Astra is stamped "Japanese contract" (and not
"made in Spain") precisely because "Spain" is too long and difficult to translate in chinese or japanese, as you said (see picture 3 below). No more, no less.
Also, is Schroeder a reference in Oriental languages ?

christian

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by laoshi75

Postino,

Sorry, the 3 Hanzi on your Mauser M1930 mean: "Made in Germany" (De-Guo-Zhi) as pictured on the photo below, and not "Chinese contract".

Christian - Sorry if my comment misled you...It is an export commercial Mauser M1930, made by Mauser for the Chinese market; and as you stated, it does say "Made in Germany", to the best of my knowledge...

[alvin]

Originally Posted by laoshi75

Also, is Schroeder a reference in Oriental languages ?

Christian -- Most likely, Schroeder is not a reference in Oriental language. Probably Antaris helped him preparing that column in that month. But I Antaris is not a reference in Oriental language either.

Before I continue on "Made in Japan", let me tell a side story, The "Made in Germany" posted by Postie reminded me this story.

Back probably a year or two ago, one guy listed a Mauser 1930 with that "Made in Germany" Hanzi stamp on gunbroker.com, but he described it as a rare Chinese made C96 with Hanzi mark. Chinese made C96 being rare or not, real or fake is not off topic, but that particular one that he listed was a real Mauser. I saw it, and I sent him a message saying "the text says 'Made in Germany', not 'Made in China'". He indeed replied and the reply was interesting. He said that he had consulted a waiter in a local Chinese restaurant before he listed the gun, and the waiter told him "It's made in China, because I have never seen a real German product have Chinese charaters on them. This must be a fake, so called 'Mountain Village Edition'. Here is the rule of thumb -- if something is printed in Hanzi saying 'Made in (fill in a country other than China)', then it's made in China".

I have to agree, the waiter read those characters, and he definitely understood the meaning. Without knowing this type of gun, he's ..... I have to say his thought having a point -- not something has "Made in Germany" on it, then he would simply believe it's made in Germany. On the contrary, he made the opposite conclusion. He's wrong on this particular one, but the seller was convinced.

..... to be continued .... hold on