Question about the German Egun auction sight.

alvin · 02-14-2010, 04:18 PM

Looks like egun being German version of gunbroker.com, and hermann-historica.com being German version of Rock Island Auction.

Luger price was a little bit lower there occasionally. Never acquired anything overseas, but two questions: (1) Is the gun deactivated? (2) Assume (1) is no, then how to avoid a new stamp adding to it when importing?

..... considering importing fee..... unless it's a very rare one and it's very cheap, importing will be more expansive.

charly239 · 02-14-2010, 04:29 PM

the gun isnt deactivated....

its only sold with a ewb....a german document which allows you to by a gun...

regards thomas

suum cuique · 02-14-2010, 08:58 PM

I've bought 3-4 times at egun before, but just spare parts and stuff, never a gun.
I guess it would be a real hassle to import a gun into the US if you buy from a private seller. The most sellers just sell just within the EU, a dealer with experience will maybe sell out of the EU, too.
If there is a reserve, then you can see it right away:

This Luger, for example, has a reserve of the amount of 900 Euro, it's the starting price for this auction. I have never seen a "hidden" reserve price.
Sometimes Lugers sell really cheap in Germany, especially if they have no modern proof markings. Then they have to get a new proof mark before they can be bought by a private buyer. Only a gun dealer or a collector (with a proper license) may buy one of those guns. Alot of old WW1 and WW2 guns have no modern proof markings. Then there is another reason for cheap prices: In Germany it is really hard to get a license to buy/own a gun. Alot of the weapons are from people who enherited a gun and must sell the gun because the gun license office give them a hard time, this reflects on the prices as well. Alot of them just want to get rid of the enherited gun/guns.
Sometimes they just give them away for destruction, just to get rid of it.
(BTW: There are about 20,000,000 (20 Million) estimated UNREGISTERED (illegal possesed) guns in Germany, too. That's alot.
But only registered guns can be sold on egun, of course.

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=2632519

02-14-2010, 08:58 PM	#3
suum cuique User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD / Currently about 9000 klicks east of the Potomac Posts: 497 Thanks: 108 Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts	I've bought 3-4 times at egun before, but just spare parts and stuff, never a gun. I guess it would be a real hassle to import a gun into the US if you buy from a private seller. The most sellers just sell just within the EU, a dealer with experience will maybe sell out of the EU, too. If there is a reserve, then you can see it right away: This Luger, for example, has a reserve of the amount of 900 Euro, it's the starting price for this auction. I have never seen a "hidden" reserve price. Sometimes Lugers sell really cheap in Germany, especially if they have no modern proof markings. Then they have to get a new proof mark before they can be bought by a private buyer. Only a gun dealer or a collector (with a proper license) may buy one of those guns. Alot of old WW1 and WW2 guns have no modern proof markings. Then there is another reason for cheap prices: In Germany it is really hard to get a license to buy/own a gun. Alot of the weapons are from people who enherited a gun and must sell the gun because the gun license office give them a hard time, this reflects on the prices as well. Alot of them just want to get rid of the enherited gun/guns. Sometimes they just give them away for destruction, just to get rid of it. (BTW: There are about 20,000,000 (20 Million) estimated UNREGISTERED (illegal possesed) guns in Germany, too. That's alot. But only registered guns can be sold on egun, of course. http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=2632519 __________________ Regards, Andy There's No Place Like Home (Wizard Of Oz)

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02-14-2010, 04:18 PM	#1
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Looks like egun being German version of gunbroker.com, and hermann-historica.com being German version of Rock Island Auction. Luger price was a little bit lower there occasionally. Never acquired anything overseas, but two questions: (1) Is the gun deactivated? (2) Assume (1) is no, then how to avoid a new stamp adding to it when importing? ..... considering importing fee..... unless it's a very rare one and it's very cheap, importing will be more expansive.

02-14-2010, 04:29 PM	#2
charly239 User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 211 Thanks: 16 Thanked 10 Times in 2 Posts	the gun isnt deactivated.... its only sold with a ewb....a german document which allows you to by a gun... regards thomas