Arty with pouch + questions

charly239 · 10-21-2009, 01:29 PM

Hallo all

this came today across.....same marker on both items....

R.Nagel & Co from Bielefeld and the year 1915

complete with tool and rod,both are imperial marked

now my first questions....are this markings Erfurt marks ( Crown over Letter ) ??

look at the loops and the front from the arty one, i think this is old repaired or changed.

thanks for your opinions

regards t.

charly239 · 10-21-2009, 01:33 PM

look pls

charly239 · 10-21-2009, 01:34 PM

ty

George Anderson · 10-21-2009, 03:52 PM

The markings on the two tools are not necessarily Erfurt but rather simply Imperial army marked. The holster was modified for belt wear probably long after the war. The magazine pouch is all original and correct. One rarely sees the mag pouches dyed black.

tenbears · 11-15-2009, 12:02 PM

Probably urban myth but I have been told black was the color officers used. I have Imperial holsters that started out brown but later were dyed black but they have Weimar markings added.

Vlim · 11-15-2009, 12:13 PM

Interesting conversion to a belt carry type with altered closing strap.

10-21-2009, 01:29 PM	#1
charly239 User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 211 Thanks: 16 Thanked 10 Times in 2 Posts	Arty with pouch + questions Hallo all this came today across.....same marker on both items.... R.Nagel & Co from Bielefeld and the year 1915 complete with tool and rod,both are imperial marked now my first questions....are this markings Erfurt marks ( Crown over Letter ) ?? look at the loops and the front from the arty one, i think this is old repaired or changed. thanks for your opinions regards t. Attached Thumbnails

10-21-2009, 01:33 PM	#2
charly239 User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 211 Thanks: 16 Thanked 10 Times in 2 Posts	moore pics look pls Attached Thumbnails

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charly239 User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 211 Thanks: 16 Thanked 10 Times in 2 Posts	pics ty Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

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10-21-2009, 03:52 PM	#4
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	The markings on the two tools are not necessarily Erfurt but rather simply Imperial army marked. The holster was modified for belt wear probably long after the war. The magazine pouch is all original and correct. One rarely sees the mag pouches dyed black.

11-15-2009, 12:02 PM	#5
tenbears User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 370 Thanks: 3 Thanked 26 Times in 15 Posts	Probably urban myth but I have been told black was the color officers used. I have Imperial holsters that started out brown but later were dyed black but they have Weimar markings added.

11-15-2009, 12:13 PM	#6
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Interesting conversion to a belt carry type with altered closing strap.