1939 police value

steven c · 08-08-2009, 03:11 PM

I would like to say thank you in advance. i recently aquired this from the vet son. You guys here don't seem to mind to state a value of an item if you have good pics, That i will try here. I would like to pass that info to my family in case they have to move it or keep it because things do happen. I know lugers are based on year, type, and condition this looks close to 98%. also came with police holster and 2 non matching mags.

IT shows more deep blue with out the strong light on it. the pics, show more of a brown in it

Regards steve.

DavidJayUden · 08-08-2009, 04:40 PM

In today's market I'd venture a $1200-$1400 guess-timate. I don't see anything that sets it apart from other Lugers of that vintage, but it looks very nice!
DJU

steven c · 08-08-2009, 04:48 PM

thank you DJU,

It dose all match. i will try to add more pics.

SteveM · 08-08-2009, 05:56 PM

This is not your typical police. It was army that was routed to the police and falls in the serial range of others of this configuration. You can probably add 1K to the value that was listed above. That should get you in the ballpark of what it's value is.

It is probably more rare than a '39 Banner Police.

steven c · 08-08-2009, 07:18 PM

I want to thank you guys that posted. The reason I asked the value, I didn't want say at first. I had read a recent post here or at another sight about keeping a record of what a piece would bring if a family members needs to sell. This just happened recently after I had read it, a new outside salesman came to the shop a week ago Thursday, I met him and shook his hand one time and then he was killed in a car accident on Monday. I do alot of driving myself in and around the Dallas/Ft. Worth area, this is why I asked.

Thank you, Steven.

Lyn Islaub · 08-08-2009, 08:23 PM

There were only about 38,000 S/42 Mausers produced in 1939 and your pistol is one of 600 that were provided to the police. It is extemely rare and looks to be in exceptional condition. It is indeed worth $2500-3000, even in today's depressed market. Does the magazine have a matching number?
Lyn

lugerholsterrepair · 08-08-2009, 09:05 PM

Lyn...also came with police holster and 2 non matching mags.

Jerry Burney

DavidJayUden · 08-08-2009, 09:24 PM

I guess I missed that one BIG TIME. Congrat's to the owner and thank you others for catching/correcting its actual value.
DJU

Lyn Islaub · 08-08-2009, 11:15 PM

Thx Jerry as I had missed the holster and matched magazine reference. That certainly elevates this rig into the $4000+ range, doesn't it.
Lyn

Edward Tinker · 08-08-2009, 11:28 PM

1939 with police holster and 2 non matching mags, it is rare, probably close to $3000, depends on the holster and magazines that came with it.

Here is my 1939 S/42 police;

steven c · 08-09-2009, 07:56 PM

I want to thank all of you that have commented on this post. I will pass this info to my brother, he doesn't know a late war paratrooper helmet from an un-decaled late war Wehrmackt helmet. He's not a collector, what a shame, but it's good to find other collectors out there that share the same interst.

I've been reading here for some time, and I see how the Lugers become addictive. what I would like to next is an artillery model

Kind regards, Steve.

suum cuique · 08-27-2009, 07:28 PM

Why do have police luger wooden grips have metal inlays?
Do all police lugers of the 30s period have thosoe metal inlays?
What are those inlays for?
Thanks.

Ice · 08-27-2009, 07:54 PM

Luger grips did not come with metal inlays and the German Reich didn't approve of individual soldiers/police adding decoration to the grips. The metal inlays that you have seen were done either by a bored GI adding some decoration to his captured war trophy or were added after the war to add some additional glamour to some tall tale about that trophy. Aftermarket grips were often decorated also. I remember seeing a photo of a metal Luftwaffe Eagle inletted into a Luger grip. I really liked that decoration but it wasn't an original thing.

Charlie

suum cuique · 08-27-2009, 08:04 PM

Hi Charlie,
I did not mean decorative inlays on the grips, I ment some metal inlays on the inside of the grips of police lugers. They are not visible from the outside.
Andy

Edward Tinker · 08-27-2009, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suum cuique

Hi Charlie,
I did not mean decorative inlays on the grips, I ment some metal inlays on the inside of the grips of police lugers. They are not visible from the outside.
Andy

Andy, I have never seen this on police grips.

suum cuique · 08-27-2009, 10:55 PM

Edward,
I saw them on ebay for sale for about 140$
It is a guy whoe sells plenty of luger items like holsters, mags and parts.

suum cuique · 08-27-2009, 10:59 PM

This is the link to the shop of the luger parts dealer on ebay

http://stores.shop.ebay.com/LUGER-Wa...__W0QQ_armrsZ1

Vlim · 08-27-2009, 11:14 PM

Not the best place to start. His item descriptions are not too accurate at times. Note his 'Dutch holster' which is actually a Portuguese police holster and worth less than half of his asking price.

Standard Luger grips NEVER have metal inlays. Some period resellers offered stocks that could be fitted to the pistol using modified grips with metal plates (the Ideal Holster Stock, for example).

MFC · 08-28-2009, 12:36 AM

I remember seeing that auction on ebay. The seller stated that the metal insert protected the grip when a magazine safety was present. It was fitted into the recess on the inside of the left grip, over the area of the mag safety. First time I saw or heard of one, and I wondered if it was legit.

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suum cuique User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD / Currently about 9000 klicks east of the Potomac Posts: 497 Thanks: 108 Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts	metal inlays in police luger grips Why do have police luger wooden grips have metal inlays? Do all police lugers of the 30s period have thosoe metal inlays? What are those inlays for? Thanks.

08-28-2009, 12:36 AM	#19
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	I remember seeing that auction on ebay. The seller stated that the metal insert protected the grip when a magazine safety was present. It was fitted into the recess on the inside of the left grip, over the area of the mag safety. First time I saw or heard of one, and I wondered if it was legit. __________________ Mike C.

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08-08-2009, 04:40 PM	#2
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	In today's market I'd venture a $1200-$1400 guess-timate. I don't see anything that sets it apart from other Lugers of that vintage, but it looks very nice! DJU

08-08-2009, 05:56 PM	#4
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	This is not your typical police. It was army that was routed to the police and falls in the serial range of others of this configuration. You can probably add 1K to the value that was listed above. That should get you in the ballpark of what it's value is. It is probably more rare than a '39 Banner Police.

08-08-2009, 07:18 PM	#5
steven c User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: texas Posts: 60 Thanks: 15 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	I want to thank you guys that posted. The reason I asked the value, I didn't want say at first. I had read a recent post here or at another sight about keeping a record of what a piece would bring if a family members needs to sell. This just happened recently after I had read it, a new outside salesman came to the shop a week ago Thursday, I met him and shook his hand one time and then he was killed in a car accident on Monday. I do alot of driving myself in and around the Dallas/Ft. Worth area, this is why I asked. Thank you, Steven.

08-08-2009, 08:23 PM	#6
Lyn Islaub Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 435 Thanks: 3 Thanked 152 Times in 72 Posts	There were only about 38,000 S/42 Mausers produced in 1939 and your pistol is one of 600 that were provided to the police. It is extemely rare and looks to be in exceptional condition. It is indeed worth $2500-3000, even in today's depressed market. Does the magazine have a matching number? Lyn

08-08-2009, 09:24 PM	#8
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I guess I missed that one BIG TIME. Congrat's to the owner and thank you others for catching/correcting its actual value. DJU

08-08-2009, 11:15 PM	#9
Lyn Islaub Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 435 Thanks: 3 Thanked 152 Times in 72 Posts	Thx Jerry as I had missed the holster and matched magazine reference. That certainly elevates this rig into the $4000+ range, doesn't it. Lyn

08-09-2009, 07:56 PM	#11
steven c User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: texas Posts: 60 Thanks: 15 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	I want to thank all of you that have commented on this post. I will pass this info to my brother, he doesn't know a late war paratrooper helmet from an un-decaled late war Wehrmackt helmet. He's not a collector, what a shame, but it's good to find other collectors out there that share the same interst. I've been reading here for some time, and I see how the Lugers become addictive. what I would like to next is an artillery model Kind regards, Steve.

08-27-2009, 07:54 PM	#13
Ice User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 552 Thanks: 13 Thanked 69 Times in 57 Posts	Luger grips did not come with metal inlays and the German Reich didn't approve of individual soldiers/police adding decoration to the grips. The metal inlays that you have seen were done either by a bored GI adding some decoration to his captured war trophy or were added after the war to add some additional glamour to some tall tale about that trophy. Aftermarket grips were often decorated also. I remember seeing a photo of a metal Luftwaffe Eagle inletted into a Luger grip. I really liked that decoration but it wasn't an original thing. Charlie

08-27-2009, 08:04 PM	#14
suum cuique User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD / Currently about 9000 klicks east of the Potomac Posts: 497 Thanks: 108 Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts	Hi Charlie, I did not mean decorative inlays on the grips, I ment some metal inlays on the inside of the grips of police lugers. They are not visible from the outside. Andy

08-27-2009, 10:55 PM	#16
suum cuique User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD / Currently about 9000 klicks east of the Potomac Posts: 497 Thanks: 108 Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts	Edward, I saw them on ebay for sale for about 140$ It is a guy whoe sells plenty of luger items like holsters, mags and parts.

08-27-2009, 10:59 PM	#17
suum cuique User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD / Currently about 9000 klicks east of the Potomac Posts: 497 Thanks: 108 Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts	This is the link to the shop of the luger parts dealer on ebay http://stores.shop.ebay.com/LUGER-Wa...__W0QQ_armrsZ1

08-27-2009, 11:14 PM	#18
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,991 Times in 1,205 Posts	Not the best place to start. His item descriptions are not too accurate at times. Note his 'Dutch holster' which is actually a Portuguese police holster and worth less than half of his asking price. Standard Luger grips NEVER have metal inlays. Some period resellers offered stocks that could be fitted to the pistol using modified grips with metal plates (the Ideal Holster Stock, for example).