Help with Black AWM -3-11 Holster

[Pistol]

Klaus

here are tool photos - still blurry - I'll try different camera next week

It is similar to yours but it is slightly differnt crown and not a C. I con't know what letter it is D or N?

[klaus 3338]

Pistol, I think it´s this one, the crown/A?!
Regards Klaus

[Pistol]

Yes - that is it. An A! What type of font type style is that? The Fraktur and German script "A" examples that I have don't exactly match the "A" inscribed on the tools. My mark is not has prominent as
yours (mine being faintly stamped).

What does the crown/A mean? Is it Erfurt, and what are the dates of manufacter?

Klaus - where I can I find more about the histories of the regiments stamped on the holster?

The German owner was in his 50's in 1944 or 1945 and said he was a Burgomeister? I wonder if he was the WWI soldier that served in those regiments.

[klaus 3338]

Pistol, so faintly as on the first photo? The second photo is showing all Erfurt tools I know to exist. Erfurt tools are coming in the white and have a special shape.

Reckendorf, a German expert, wrote, that the family name of the acceptance officer started with the A. I´m suspect about this theory which is based an German archives. I have all the names of the acceptance officers of Spandau, Erfurt and other gun and rifle factories. But I must say that I´m unable since more than 20 years to bring some light in this thing.

It´s no problem to find something out about the regiments which are stamped into your holster. I will write something about tomorro. Remember me if I should forget it.

The German owner was a Bürgermeister (mayor, oh, yes in my dictionary stand Burgomeister). May be his father was the member of the Bavarian regiment(s) and former owner of the Luger. But if he was born in the early 90`it could have been possible that he was in the Great war and later Bürgermeister in his 50´s.

It would be nice to see better photos of gun and holster.

Best regards Klaus

[klaus 3338]

Both the Bavarian 16. Inf. Reg. with honor name Großherzog Ferdinand von Toskana and the Bavarian 2. Inf. Reg. with honor name Kronprinz “made” together the Bav. 2. Infantry Brigade. These both were active regiments. In many cases reserve regiments were build with former active soldiers. And in many cases the equipment was transferred from an active to a reserve regiment at the beginning of the Great War. Often the equipment was sold from one regiment to another!!! It seems that it was also so with your Luger and the holster. Because your Luger is a commercial one it seems that your Luger belonged to an officer who had to buy the gun and all equipment with his own money. I know a lot of examples for this practice.

Back to your holster: I think your Luger and it´s holster was at the beginning of the Great War “part” of the Bav. 2. Inf. Reg. and fought as a part of the 1. Bavarian Reserve Division only at the Western front: 1914 and 1915 mostly on the Flanders front (Arras, Artois, Nancy; La Bassee and so on); in 1916 Battle at the Somme and Flanders and Aisne; in 1917 also in Flanders and Artois and 1918 in Flanders (Ypres, Armentieres and Lys).

I visited all these battle fields and will visit them one more in a few weeks.
My grandpa fought there on the German side of course and his brother died there 1918 near Maissemy in France where I hope to find his grave. The attached photos are showing my grandpa who was born in 1887. I remember him well as a really tall man with great hands. On these photos, about 1916 and 1917, he was an Unteroffizier of the 1. Escadron of the Reserve Hussar No. 8.

As I often must write: My English is not the best, but I hope I could answer your question. If not, let me know.
Best regards Klaus

[Pistol]

Here are two better photos of the the takedown tool.

Klaus if you are out there - What is your take on the owner claim to be Oberbürgermeister?