luger 1915

roc · 06-19-2009, 01:24 PM

hello. i am sorry to say i know nothing about computers and there icons and i hope rhis goes thru. i ahve a luger marked 1915 on top of the breech in my researches so far i have found that it is all original markings for a military piece but between the serial # and the witness marks under the barrel is a # 8,82 and on the handle down from the trigger gaurd 3.ch . can anyone tell me what they are. by the way what are tags that can be added to a thread.

Frank · 06-19-2009, 01:57 PM

Hello roc, WELCOME !!!

The number on the barrel "8,82" is the measurement of the bore diameter in millimeters. The size of a rod that will just fit into the barrel. Hope this helps!

roc · 06-19-2009, 02:01 PM

thank you. what about the # on the handle below the trigger gaurd?

DavidJayUden · 06-19-2009, 02:04 PM

I'm guessing that those could be regimental markings, but would need to see a photo or at least a detailed description. Get us the info. There are guys here that can look at those and tell you what the soldier had for lunch...
DJU

roc · 06-19-2009, 02:20 PM

thanks i will try to get some pictures

Ron Smith · 06-19-2009, 03:24 PM

Hi Leroy,

How is the marking on the grip stamped? Is it 3.ch. or 3.Ch. Without seeing photos of the exact marking, it could be 3rd Chevaulegers (Light Cavalry) Regiment. If there aren't any other numbers or letters, it is most likely a "Stab" or Staff pistol. Meaning that it was more or less held in reserve for issue as needed and never assigned to a Squadron.

Welcome to the forum..

Ron

klaus 3338 · 06-19-2009, 03:44 PM

Ron, than it would be a Bavarian (cavalry) unit and a B. should be with the unit mark.
Regards Klaus

roc · 06-19-2009, 04:12 PM

hello ron. the markings are with the large letters. 3.CH.

roc · 06-19-2009, 04:15 PM

I have some pictures but I DO NOT KNOW HOW TOSEND THEM. DO iSEND THEM TO WWW,LUGERFORUM.COM/?

roc · 06-19-2009, 04:16 PM

Sorry about the capital letters

klaus 3338 · 06-19-2009, 04:27 PM

roc. You can send the photos to my email. I will do the job if you want.
grafschaft@gmx.de
regards Klaus

Edward Tinker · 06-19-2009, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roc

I have some pictures but I DO NOT KNOW HOW TOSEND THEM. DO iSEND THEM TO WWW,LUGERFORUM.COM/?

You don't "send" photos, you upload them to a thread

.

See posting by Ron on your other thread.

Use the Manage Attachments; although they have to be small enough....

Ed

roc · 06-21-2009, 07:01 PM

Here's the markings...finally. Thank God for my daughter!

Ron Wood · 06-21-2009, 07:22 PM

Looks like "the other Ron" (Ron Smith) got it right...3rd Chevaulegers (Light Cavalry) Regiment staff. That little snapshot is a teaser, the gun looks to be in great condition. Please ask your daughter (thank God indeed!) to help post more pictures of this piece.

Ron Smith · 06-21-2009, 07:32 PM

Turned your photo around so as to get a better look.

Klaus,

Would the B still be applied to a Stab marked Luger? It certainly looks to be a 3rd Chevaulegers Staff pistol mark to me.

Ron

klaus 3338 · 06-22-2009, 02:31 AM

We all know the D.V.E.Nr.185 â??order for stamping the handgunâ? from January 1909. This one was a Prussian order.

When we look at the Ulanen (Lancers) for example we have some problems. Prussia had Ulanen regiments 1 to 16 and Bavaria had 1. and 2. Lancers Regiment. We know that the unit marks on the Bavarian guns came with a B. Maybe the reason of the missing of the B is that the Prussian Army does not have Chevaulegers. Chevaulegers were only in Bavaria. We can compare them with the hussars.

Because the holsters for the units in the German Army in Imperial time came from the clothing depots (BekleidungsÃ¤mter) the D.V.E.Nr.185 was not for the holster and the other equipment. The Bavarian holsters are all without the B in front of the unit marks.

Yes Ron, you are right: RocÂ´s Luger is from the 3 Bavarian Chevaulegers regiment staff. I attach some photos of other Bavarian Chevaulegers Lugers and their holsters. The 1. Chevauleger Luger is with the B, the 2. not. The unit marks on the holsters are without the B.

klaus 3338 · 06-22-2009, 02:37 AM

Roc, it would be nice to see some more photos of your Luger.
On the Landau list are the Lugers of the 3. Chevaulegers enumerated. Your Luger should have Nr. 106 or 113 or 120. These 3 numbers are listed with the staff.
Best regards from Germany klaus.

roc · 06-22-2009, 11:01 AM

thanks to all . iwill try to get more pics. bye the way do you know of any history on the gun

A.Mifsin · 06-22-2009, 11:31 AM

"We all know the D.V.E.Nr.185 â??order for stamping the handgunâ? from January 1909. This one was a Prussian order. "

klaus 3338, can you explain in more detail the meanig of the D.V.E.nr.185.. please.
Alf.

klaus 3338 · 06-22-2009, 11:44 AM

Alf, sorry, but you must help me: We all know... ...in more detail the meaning ...!
IÂ´m sorry but I think I do not understand. What should I try to explain, please?
My English is not the best!

06-19-2009, 01:24 PM	#1
roc User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	luger 1915 hello. i am sorry to say i know nothing about computers and there icons and i hope rhis goes thru. i ahve a luger marked 1915 on top of the breech in my researches so far i have found that it is all original markings for a military piece but between the serial # and the witness marks under the barrel is a # 8,82 and on the handle down from the trigger gaurd 3.ch . can anyone tell me what they are. by the way what are tags that can be added to a thread.

06-19-2009, 03:24 PM	#6
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hi Leroy, How is the marking on the grip stamped? Is it 3.ch. or 3.Ch. Without seeing photos of the exact marking, it could be 3rd Chevaulegers (Light Cavalry) Regiment. If there aren't any other numbers or letters, it is most likely a "Stab" or Staff pistol. Meaning that it was more or less held in reserve for issue as needed and never assigned to a Squadron. Welcome to the forum.. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

06-21-2009, 07:22 PM	#14
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,051 Thanks: 1,119 Thanked 5,286 Times in 1,728 Posts	Looks like "the other Ron" (Ron Smith) got it right...3rd Chevaulegers (Light Cavalry) Regiment staff. That little snapshot is a teaser, the gun looks to be in great condition. Please ask your daughter (thank God indeed!) to help post more pictures of this piece. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-22-2009, 11:31 AM	#19
A.Mifsin User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 570 Thanks: 74 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	"We all know the D.V.E.Nr.185 â??order for stamping the handgunâ? from January 1909. This one was a Prussian order. " klaus 3338, can you explain in more detail the meanig of the D.V.E.nr.185.. please. Alf. __________________ I prefer a Luger

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06-19-2009, 01:57 PM	#2
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 164 Times in 87 Posts	Hello roc, WELCOME !!! The number on the barrel "8,82" is the measurement of the bore diameter in millimeters. The size of a rod that will just fit into the barrel. Hope this helps!

06-19-2009, 02:01 PM	#3
roc User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thank you. what about the # on the handle below the trigger gaurd?

06-19-2009, 02:04 PM	#4
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I'm guessing that those could be regimental markings, but would need to see a photo or at least a detailed description. Get us the info. There are guys here that can look at those and tell you what the soldier had for lunch... DJU

06-19-2009, 02:20 PM	#5
roc User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks i will try to get some pictures

06-19-2009, 03:44 PM	#7
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 524 Thanks: 0 Thanked 432 Times in 165 Posts	Ron, than it would be a Bavarian (cavalry) unit and a B. should be with the unit mark. Regards Klaus

06-19-2009, 04:12 PM	#8
roc User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	hello ron. the markings are with the large letters. 3.CH.

06-19-2009, 04:15 PM	#9
roc User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have some pictures but I DO NOT KNOW HOW TOSEND THEM. DO iSEND THEM TO WWW,LUGERFORUM.COM/?

06-19-2009, 04:16 PM	#10
roc User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sorry about the capital letters

06-19-2009, 04:27 PM	#11
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 524 Thanks: 0 Thanked 432 Times in 165 Posts	roc. You can send the photos to my email. I will do the job if you want. grafschaft@gmx.de regards Klaus

06-22-2009, 02:37 AM	#17
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 524 Thanks: 0 Thanked 432 Times in 165 Posts	Roc, it would be nice to see some more photos of your Luger. On the Landau list are the Lugers of the 3. Chevaulegers enumerated. Your Luger should have Nr. 106 or 113 or 120. These 3 numbers are listed with the staff. Best regards from Germany klaus.

06-22-2009, 11:01 AM	#18
roc User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks to all . iwill try to get more pics. bye the way do you know of any history on the gun

06-22-2009, 11:44 AM	#20
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 524 Thanks: 0 Thanked 432 Times in 165 Posts	Alf, sorry, but you must help me: We all know... ...in more detail the meaning ...! IÂ´m sorry but I think I do not understand. What should I try to explain, please? My English is not the best!