Commercial Luger ID Mystery

Hugo Borchardt · 06-04-2009, 09:56 AM

Correction on hold open device serial # - I thought the hold open device was only the triangle thing on the inside of the receiver that holds the toggle open, coupled with the strawed bar attached to it on the right outside of the receiver. After fooling with the clip this morning, I noticed that all or part of the hold open device is built into the lower frame and does have a nonmatching serial #24:

See photos below. I apologize for error in my response above. I'm still a Rookie! I'm going to have to study my parts and names and expected serial locations for each part.

Also take a look at that nasty chip on the holdopen. The collector/shooter index on this gun is dropping fast! Fortunately I didn't pay a lot for the gun, though you guys ought to bill me for this education!

btw: I also noticed the wood bottomed clip I swapped out to this gun is full of grease. Sorry 'bout that. Gotta clean that up.

LugerVern · 06-04-2009, 11:25 PM

Hi Clark

This may be nothing but if you would like to continue; I would be interested in taking a measurement on the receiver lug height.

The receiver lug is often stamped with a partial SN, this is usually very deep, one of the things to check for is to see if the SN has been removed and in the process the height of the lug lowered.

This is a very often over looked detail and should be part of the review prior to purchase, especially of the more expensive guns.

The diagram is a small part of one picture from John Sabatoâ??s â??Luger Blueprint CDâ? that is available for sale in the for sale part of this forum. It has saved me a lot of money and I highly recommend it to everyone.

John, hope you donâ??t mind me using it as an example?

Vern

06-04-2009, 09:56 AM	#1
Hugo Borchardt User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 372 Thanks: 340 Thanked 143 Times in 48 Posts	Correction on hold open device serial # - I thought the hold open device was only the triangle thing on the inside of the receiver that holds the toggle open, coupled with the strawed bar attached to it on the right outside of the receiver. After fooling with the clip this morning, I noticed that all or part of the hold open device is built into the lower frame and does have a nonmatching serial #24: See photos below. I apologize for error in my response above. I'm still a Rookie! I'm going to have to study my parts and names and expected serial locations for each part. Also take a look at that nasty chip on the holdopen. The collector/shooter index on this gun is dropping fast! Fortunately I didn't pay a lot for the gun, though you guys ought to bill me for this education! btw: I also noticed the wood bottomed clip I swapped out to this gun is full of grease. Sorry 'bout that. Gotta clean that up. Attached Thumbnails __________________ My militaria collection is dedicated to the memory of my Grandfather, Marine Gunnery Sergeant Dave Hill, Jr., wounded in action at The Assault of the Second Marine Division on Betio Island, Tarawa Atoll, 20-23 November, 1943. http://www.tarawa1943.com/pages/casualties%20tarawa.htm

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06-04-2009, 11:25 PM	#2
LugerVern User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 563 Thanks: 1 Thanked 34 Times in 27 Posts	Hi Clark This may be nothing but if you would like to continue; I would be interested in taking a measurement on the receiver lug height. The receiver lug is often stamped with a partial SN, this is usually very deep, one of the things to check for is to see if the SN has been removed and in the process the height of the lug lowered. This is a very often over looked detail and should be part of the review prior to purchase, especially of the more expensive guns. The diagram is a small part of one picture from John Sabatoâ??s â??Luger Blueprint CDâ? that is available for sale in the for sale part of this forum. It has saved me a lot of money and I highly recommend it to everyone. John, hope you donâ??t mind me using it as an example? Vern Attached Thumbnails