Artillery Barrel Specs???

[John Sabato]

I have never seen a print of the artillery barrel, so if you find one, please let me know.

There is a forum member called Makarov (first name is Vladimir) who has done extensive work in 3D graphics. He has completed a 3D model of the artillery Luger... perhaps you could contact him and see if he can provide you a couple of dimensioned prints to help in your project.

Remarkably, all of his work has been done by reverse engineering prints and graphic images of the Luger. He lives in Russia, where possession of a Luger is forbidden.

You could also order one of my Blueprint CD's for many of the critical dimensions... unfortunately, the rear sight base on the artillery model is not included... the CD contains all of the dimensioned prints for the P.08 model.

BTW, where are YOU located?

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by John Sabato

You could also order one of my Blueprint CD's for many of the critical dimensions...

PayPal transfer completed!

BTW, where are YOU located?

I'm in the US.

Pulling the dimensions off an old 9mm barrel + pics from here and Gunbroker.com should be close enough for my loose standards...

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Rick W.

Not much really to offer...

Quite a bit, I'd say!!! Thank You!!!

Edit: Rick - What do you get for a side-to-side measurement of the rear sight "sleeve"??? Horizontal width, so to speak...

[sheepherder]

Still whittling down the excess metal...

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Rick W.

Not an easy task, the artillery barrel. Enjoying the pictures.

Yeah, picture shows are fun! I'll be putting these on the CNCGuns site as a sort of How To...

Originally Posted by John Sabato

Rich, what kind of lathe and other metal working machines do you have?

I had to sell all my real tools (Bridgeport, South Bend, Miller)...This is one of those Chinese 3in1 machines (and a rotary indexing head)...

Cut the lower radius's [radii???] today...

[G.T.]

Wow, pretty neat! I really, really like the step by step..... BTW, having Rick W. in your corner is a big plus... he's been there, done that, on most all of the BBL projects... We share the same facination for how the process was done in "The old days!" Looks to me as if you're right on track....More, more, more! Best to all, til....lat'r....GT

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by G.T.

BTW, having Rick W. in your corner is a big plus... he's been there, done that, on most all of the BBL projects...

Great minds think alike...Perhaps he's my long lost brother...

Cut down the rear sight slot; cut the front sight base...

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Rick W.

I did not have anything to measure the overall length of this arty barrel, but my foot ruler said 8 7/8", ie the nominal 200mm that we hear about for most artillery barrels.

I hope that is just a typo...200mm is 7 7/8"...

Are you adding on an extra inch for the threaded portion + part that butts against the [barrel extension/slide/receiver - choose one, the name for that piece seems ambiguous)???...

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Rick W.

...I do enjoy Luger barrels from scratch too. I have shot my own renditions from 5" to 14" lengths, all in 30 caliber; 30 Luger and wildcats thereof...

I like doing wildcats...I have a Colt Gov't Model in 38/45 Clerke and a S&W N-frame in .357/44 magnum...and this Broomhandle, in .256 Winchester Magnum/7.63mm Mauser...I cut down a .223 Remington case and run it through a shortened .256 Win Mag die to make the cartridges...barrel blank, like most all of mine, is from Numrich, many years ago...

[sheepherder]

Got a couple of little things finished...Cut a couple scallops in the rear sight base sides to mimic the LP08 base; re-cut the front sight ramp (I had used 60�º instead of the 40�º called for in the blueprints; I settled for 45�º); cut the muzzle back; re-cut the sight arc...

...It's getting there...

End of my vacation today; work will go slowly from here on...

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Rick W.

I have a set of B&D dies, but not executed a 27 conversion yet, maybe someday.

Mine is not the Bain & Davis; it's the .44 Mag brass run through a .357 Automag die. I used to have an Automag with both .357 and .44 Automag barrels; ran a couple shells through the .357 Automag dies and then had Clymer (back when the family still ran the business) grind me a reamer. Did a couple N-frame cylinders; worked out real well.

Always wondered how the Clerke would feed, hear about them from time to time, guess ok.

Not so good...It takes a lot of experimentation to get the ramp and mag right...I still don't have it right...

In the Luger realm, I seem to be given a few 30 and 303Brit caliber rifle take off barrels now and then, so hence the 30 caliber Luger attempts here...I finally got tired of losing all of the real 30 Luger brass($$$) at the indoor range, and worked with the 9mmx19 necked up to 30 caliber that was posted here some years ago by a forum member across the pond....

That's the 9 x 19 brass run through a .30 Luger die??? I might try that...I've been making my .30 Luger cartridges from .223 Remington brass cut down & run through the .30 Luger dies...I did the same thing with the 7.63mm Broomhandle...

Pic attached...Stripper clip of Rube Goldberg 7.63mm Broomhandle (made from .223 Rem); one of the 7.63mm Broomhandle/Rube Goldberg cartridges; one 38/45 Clerke; a 357/44 bottleneck hull; and a loaded 357/44 bottleneck...

[sheepherder]

Continuing on my never-ending quest to get a long barrel on my commercial P-08...

Clockwise from top left - I decided to shorten the FN Mauser M24/30 rear sight to more the length of the LP-08 Luger...Milled 3/8" off the front; cut the slots with a keyway cutter; milled the front to 3/8" width for my sight base; the completed shortened sight leaf/slider compared to an unmodified C96 sight; my rounded muzzle; the tool bits used for the taper and the muzzle contouring; and in the center, how the barrel looks now.

My grinding wheel didn't have a very good round corner, so I had to do a bit of filing/sanding to get the muzzle to look rounded...and I had to mill off a couple sight leaf numbers so the leaf wouldn't look too odd...also the sight base had to be recontoured so the shortened sight would slip in and be capable of elevating...

I'm trying to locate a receiver/barrel extension/slide (choose one) so I don't have to give up my 30 cal barrel...I'll make a couple calls tomorrow and see if I can scrape one up...