Pawel Nowak revisited

Vlim · 01-23-2009, 05:56 PM

The old scamster is at it again. Got an email from him with the usual text. Steer clear of this well known and pretty well documented scammer.

Hallo:

I have a Luger 1916 (and P08 holsters) and some Mauser parts for sale (also original Carl Zeiss Jena Scope). If you have an interest, let me know.
Please write to: Shipwrecks.Research271275@yahoo.com

I also have some German Insignia/Medals from WWI and WWII and a few German helmets from WWI and WWII in a good condition. There are also German daggers. I have also a few bayonets and swords for sale: japanese arisaka, and three french bayonets: Chassepot, Grass and Lebel. I would like to sell them for a reasonable price. I also have a japanese swords (katana and tanto) with the blade from XVIII century. If you could have an interest, let me know.

Regards.

Pawel
Shipwrecks.Research271275@yahoo.com

Ron Smith · 01-23-2009, 06:13 PM

Gerben,

I think he's on a loop. Same boiler plate e-mail everytime. He must just sit at his computer and hit the same button over and over.

Ron

Vlim · 01-23-2009, 06:16 PM

Ron, I know. Just a little warning to our newer collecting friends who haven't heard of him yet.

[cynical mode]
It's good that Poland joined the EU so that people like him can be prosecuted.
[/cynical mode]

DavidJayUden · 01-23-2009, 06:40 PM

Jee, and I thought I was "special".
DJU

Vlim · 01-23-2009, 06:45 PM

DJU, you are. Wannabuy my Sword?

ToggleTop · 01-23-2009, 07:04 PM

I got the same email today 23 Jan. 09. I seem to waste a lot of my time on this spam stuff. It's ashame people have to be people. I guess it takes all kinds. Some need their necks broke.

Ron Smith · 01-23-2009, 07:22 PM

Hey Chester,

Where the heck ya been? Hope everything's well with you?

Ron

ToggleTop · 01-24-2009, 11:26 AM

Ron,

Thank you for asking about me. I am alive and well as for today anyway. Hope you and yours are also well.

During this economical crisis I have been hunkered down in the woods of West Tennesse and burning wood on these cold winter days to save on the high cost of electricity. I hope my bailout money arrives soon. I will stay hunkered down until the money arrives or things get better with the new administration. I am buying nothing but necessities, no lottery tickets but always toilet paper and paper towels. Maybe those would be a good investment in the stock market. Just a little humor to let you know I still have some.

I do appreciate you asking about me.

With Kind Thoughts,

Chester

alvin · 01-24-2009, 11:32 AM

Keep receiving emails from a guy named "Grayson Mcgregor" ..... heard of him?

Dear Friend,

Do accept my sincere apologies if my mail does not meet your personal ethics. I would like to introduce myself, I am Grayson Mcgregor and I work with the staff in the accounts management section of a well-known bank here in the United Kingdom.

One of our accounts is holding a balance of Ј15,000,000 (fifteen million British Pounds) and has been dormant for the past 4 years. From my investigations and confirmations, the owner of this account is a foreigner by name of Mr. Gerald Stone who died on the 4th of January 2002 in a planecrash in Birmingham here in the UK.

Since then no one has responded in anyway in regards to claiming the funds. As far as we can tell he has no family member who are aware of the existence of either the account or the funds. Information from the National Immigration Office also states that he was single on entry into the UK.

I have confidentially discussed this issue with some of the bank officials and we have agreed to find a reliable foreign partner to deal with us. We thus propose to do business with you, standing in as the next of kin. We will process these funds from the deceased and release them to you,after due processes have been followed.

This transaction is totally risk free as the funds is legitimate and does not originate from drug, money laundry, terrorism or any other illegal act. Think this over and should you be interested, please let me hear from you.

Regards,

Mr.Grayson Mcgregor

Please reply to: gmcgregor@excite.co.uk

alanint · 01-24-2009, 12:12 PM

Just another variation of the Nigerian money scams. Enough people caught onto these letters so they have moved shop to places like England, which affords a certain amount of up-front respectability.
If you bite, they will ask you for your baniking information including routing numbers, etc and they will clean you out of anything you have in this account.
There is a hilarious site on the net called something like "scam baiter" where he strings these people along, getting them to do silly or outrageous things since they think they've caught a live one.
Delete this at once and do not respond in any way.

myky · 02-02-2009, 07:35 PM

All...... to show you how far this guy will go to con you out your money....... He either knows someone at the post office, has gotten hold of some blank receipts, or sent an empty shipment. I told him the day before I was cancelling my bank transfer after seeing his " rap sheet " on WA. He still sent this " shipping document " and said he had sent the shipment and for me to show good faith, send at least 1/2 of the money. Man, what a con artist ! I have a good friend who's a detective in Grimbergen who warned me early enough for me to cancel the money. [EDITED BY ADMIN FOR UNACCEPTABLE CONTENT]....... Buy from those who you know ! Mike Morris

alvin · 02-02-2009, 07:43 PM

We should not lose confidence on the web simply because a "Pawel Nowak" jumping out. Back a few weeks ago, I was selling a CZ-52. A pawn store guy called in asked "Are you running a business? How can I trust you? What if I send you $205 but you won't send me the gun?" .... excellent caution and excellent question to ask, but .... say, running a pawn store is not easy, I could understand why he was so cautious for $205, but I don't have an good answer.

myky · 02-02-2009, 07:46 PM

Her's a picture the jerk sent me of himself. He thinks because he sits in a foreign country he immune to prosecution. All anyone has to do is file charges on him through Interpol. They will go after himif you have irrefutable evidence. Myky

Edward Tinker · 02-02-2009, 08:06 PM

I've seen several pictures supposedly of this guy, Mike there has been warnings on both Jan's site and this one and the P38 for for about 3 years or more.

Please modify your statement about polish and germans, or I will.

ADMIN

myky · 02-02-2009, 08:19 PM

OK Ed........ I will modify my statement about Poles ( the ones like Pawel Nowak ) in today's time they need to be locked up in jail for thier crimes of fraud....... that was the meaning of my remark, that's all....... Us collectors don't need them running around a fleecing us and them thinking they can get away with it. Have you read the threads about him in Wehrmacht Awards and what he did to Jamie Cross ? It just makes me hot that he can do this with apparent immunity, and I'm sure I'm not the only one..... sorry dude........

Edward Tinker · 02-02-2009, 08:23 PM

its okay Mike, you should ask Jerry what he thinks about this guy ;>)

I think a back of a building whooping and maybe a shot to his kneecaps might encourage him to be a better human....

myky · 02-02-2009, 08:38 PM

Thanks Ed....... didn't mean to offend anyone except him.... He reads the forums this one was directed at him....... I don't know Jerry....... was he taken by Pawel too.....?

Ron Wood · 02-02-2009, 09:26 PM

Mike,
Since he supposedly sent the items, I do not see how he could recall them through the postal service. So if they show up, you are one of the fortunate ones that didn't get scammed and you owe him the payment, but I will be real surprised if you end up paying. Good luck. and I am glad you got tipped off in time, it probably saved you some bucks.

On another note, the "camps" comment is not worthy of you, you are a better person than that. We all have to be aware of the consequences of a casual remark...absolutely nothing justifies the actions of Nazi Germany.

lugerholsterrepair · 02-02-2009, 10:51 PM

On another note, the "camps" comment is not worthy of you..I have several polish Friends..members of this Forum and it would insult them greatly to see this sort of immature hatefull comment about their forfathers Nationality and the suffering they indured.
Your apology is accepted and I understand the sentiment for a thief like Pawel Nowak but words are like arrows..hard to retrieve once sent.
I suggest you edit it out of your post immediately. If you do not..Ed?

Jerry Burney

myky · 02-03-2009, 09:03 AM

Sorry guys........ my face is red...... It was directed at him only as he reads these forums. I'll take my lashes......

01-23-2009, 05:56 PM	#1
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Pawel Nowak revisited The old scamster is at it again. Got an email from him with the usual text. Steer clear of this well known and pretty well documented scammer. Hallo: I have a Luger 1916 (and P08 holsters) and some Mauser parts for sale (also original Carl Zeiss Jena Scope). If you have an interest, let me know. Please write to: Shipwrecks.Research271275@yahoo.com I also have some German Insignia/Medals from WWI and WWII and a few German helmets from WWI and WWII in a good condition. There are also German daggers. I have also a few bayonets and swords for sale: japanese arisaka, and three french bayonets: Chassepot, Grass and Lebel. I would like to sell them for a reasonable price. I also have a japanese swords (katana and tanto) with the blade from XVIII century. If you could have an interest, let me know. Regards. Pawel Shipwrecks.Research271275@yahoo.com

01-23-2009, 06:13 PM	#2
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Gerben, I think he's on a loop. Same boiler plate e-mail everytime. He must just sit at his computer and hit the same button over and over. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

01-23-2009, 07:04 PM	#6
ToggleTop User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Email I got the same email today 23 Jan. 09. I seem to waste a lot of my time on this spam stuff. It's ashame people have to be people. I guess it takes all kinds. Some need their necks broke. __________________ *********************** ToggleTop************* JustHappenToLoveLugers *************************

01-23-2009, 07:22 PM	#7
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hey Chester, Where the heck ya been? Hope everything's well with you? Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

01-24-2009, 11:26 AM	#8
ToggleTop User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello Oregun Ron, Thank you for asking about me. I am alive and well as for today anyway. Hope you and yours are also well. During this economical crisis I have been hunkered down in the woods of West Tennesse and burning wood on these cold winter days to save on the high cost of electricity. I hope my bailout money arrives soon. I will stay hunkered down until the money arrives or things get better with the new administration. I am buying nothing but necessities, no lottery tickets but always toilet paper and paper towels. Maybe those would be a good investment in the stock market. Just a little humor to let you know I still have some. I do appreciate you asking about me. With Kind Thoughts, Chester __________________ *********************** ToggleTop************* JustHappenToLoveLugers *************************

01-23-2009, 06:16 PM	#3
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Ron, I know. Just a little warning to our newer collecting friends who haven't heard of him yet. [cynical mode] It's good that Poland joined the EU so that people like him can be prosecuted. [/cynical mode]

01-23-2009, 06:40 PM	#4
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Jee, and I thought I was "special". DJU

01-23-2009, 06:45 PM	#5
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	DJU, you are. Wannabuy my Sword?

01-24-2009, 11:32 AM	#9
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Keep receiving emails from a guy named "Grayson Mcgregor" ..... heard of him? Dear Friend, Do accept my sincere apologies if my mail does not meet your personal ethics. I would like to introduce myself, I am Grayson Mcgregor and I work with the staff in the accounts management section of a well-known bank here in the United Kingdom. One of our accounts is holding a balance of Ј15,000,000 (fifteen million British Pounds) and has been dormant for the past 4 years. From my investigations and confirmations, the owner of this account is a foreigner by name of Mr. Gerald Stone who died on the 4th of January 2002 in a planecrash in Birmingham here in the UK. Since then no one has responded in anyway in regards to claiming the funds. As far as we can tell he has no family member who are aware of the existence of either the account or the funds. Information from the National Immigration Office also states that he was single on entry into the UK. I have confidentially discussed this issue with some of the bank officials and we have agreed to find a reliable foreign partner to deal with us. We thus propose to do business with you, standing in as the next of kin. We will process these funds from the deceased and release them to you,after due processes have been followed. This transaction is totally risk free as the funds is legitimate and does not originate from drug, money laundry, terrorism or any other illegal act. Think this over and should you be interested, please let me hear from you. Regards, Mr.Grayson Mcgregor Please reply to: gmcgregor@excite.co.uk

01-24-2009, 12:12 PM	#10
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Just another variation of the Nigerian money scams. Enough people caught onto these letters so they have moved shop to places like England, which affords a certain amount of up-front respectability. If you bite, they will ask you for your baniking information including routing numbers, etc and they will clean you out of anything you have in this account. There is a hilarious site on the net called something like "scam baiter" where he strings these people along, getting them to do silly or outrageous things since they think they've caught a live one. Delete this at once and do not respond in any way.

02-02-2009, 07:35 PM	#11
myky User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 178 Thanks: 1 Thanked 22 Times in 9 Posts	Pawel Nowak All...... to show you how far this guy will go to con you out your money....... He either knows someone at the post office, has gotten hold of some blank receipts, or sent an empty shipment. I told him the day before I was cancelling my bank transfer after seeing his " rap sheet " on WA. He still sent this " shipping document " and said he had sent the shipment and for me to show good faith, send at least 1/2 of the money. Man, what a con artist ! I have a good friend who's a detective in Grimbergen who warned me early enough for me to cancel the money. [EDITED BY ADMIN FOR UNACCEPTABLE CONTENT]....... Buy from those who you know ! Mike Morris Attached Thumbnails __________________ myky

02-02-2009, 07:43 PM	#12
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	We should not lose confidence on the web simply because a "Pawel Nowak" jumping out. Back a few weeks ago, I was selling a CZ-52. A pawn store guy called in asked "Are you running a business? How can I trust you? What if I send you $205 but you won't send me the gun?" .... excellent caution and excellent question to ask, but .... say, running a pawn store is not easy, I could understand why he was so cautious for $205, but I don't have an good answer.

02-02-2009, 07:46 PM	#13
myky User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 178 Thanks: 1 Thanked 22 Times in 9 Posts	Pawel nowak Her's a picture the jerk sent me of himself. He thinks because he sits in a foreign country he immune to prosecution. All anyone has to do is file charges on him through Interpol. They will go after himif you have irrefutable evidence. Myky Attached Thumbnails __________________ myky

02-02-2009, 08:06 PM	#14
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	I've seen several pictures supposedly of this guy, Mike there has been warnings on both Jan's site and this one and the P38 for for about 3 years or more. Please modify your statement about polish and germans, or I will. ADMIN

02-02-2009, 08:19 PM	#15
myky User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 178 Thanks: 1 Thanked 22 Times in 9 Posts	Pawel nowak OK Ed........ I will modify my statement about Poles ( the ones like Pawel Nowak ) in today's time they need to be locked up in jail for thier crimes of fraud....... that was the meaning of my remark, that's all....... Us collectors don't need them running around a fleecing us and them thinking they can get away with it. Have you read the threads about him in Wehrmacht Awards and what he did to Jamie Cross ? It just makes me hot that he can do this with apparent immunity, and I'm sure I'm not the only one..... sorry dude........ __________________ myky

02-02-2009, 08:23 PM	#16
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	its okay Mike, you should ask Jerry what he thinks about this guy ;>) I think a back of a building whooping and maybe a shot to his kneecaps might encourage him to be a better human.... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-02-2009, 08:38 PM	#17
myky User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 178 Thanks: 1 Thanked 22 Times in 9 Posts	Pawel nowak Thanks Ed....... didn't mean to offend anyone except him.... He reads the forums this one was directed at him....... I don't know Jerry....... was he taken by Pawel too.....? __________________ myky

02-02-2009, 09:26 PM	#18
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	Mike, Since he supposedly sent the items, I do not see how he could recall them through the postal service. So if they show up, you are one of the fortunate ones that didn't get scammed and you owe him the payment, but I will be real surprised if you end up paying. Good luck. and I am glad you got tipped off in time, it probably saved you some bucks. On another note, the "camps" comment is not worthy of you, you are a better person than that. We all have to be aware of the consequences of a casual remark...absolutely nothing justifies the actions of Nazi Germany. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-02-2009, 10:51 PM	#19
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	On another note, the "camps" comment is not worthy of you..I have several polish Friends..members of this Forum and it would insult them greatly to see this sort of immature hatefull comment about their forfathers Nationality and the suffering they indured. Your apology is accepted and I understand the sentiment for a thief like Pawel Nowak but words are like arrows..hard to retrieve once sent. I suggest you edit it out of your post immediately. If you do not..Ed? Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

02-03-2009, 09:03 AM	#20
myky User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 178 Thanks: 1 Thanked 22 Times in 9 Posts	Pawel nowak Sorry guys........ my face is red...... It was directed at him only as he reads these forums. I'll take my lashes...... __________________ myky

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