droop wing eagle proof on tool - Page 2

nickn · 02-25-2008, 05:19 PM

sorry for the multiple answers
i have just put the tool back in the holster and pulled it in and out a number of times and it does not appear to touch the stud

nickn · 02-25-2008, 05:24 PM

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lugerholsterrepair · 02-25-2008, 06:49 PM

Nick, OK...I rest my case. Must be a good one.
Jerry Burney

tenbears · 02-26-2008, 12:56 AM

Something I have not heard mention in this thread yet is the semichrome test to determine if the tool is rust blue or not. I doubt if a fake tool was ever rust blue.

Ron Smith · 02-26-2008, 10:12 PM

Dow,

What is the Semi-Chrome test? What does it consist of?

Rubbing semi-chrome on to see if the blue comes off?

Ron

Edward Tinker · 02-27-2008, 12:16 AM

semichrome is a cleaner, used for brass, etc. it will clean off the natural rust, so it "might" show if it is older.

From what I udnerstand, the thickness of the tool is the best way to decide if real or not. Hardness, well, i have found the fakes to easily bend, so bad i hate them and won't buy a fake.

Also, I have seen old lists of luger dealers, both Hoffman and Shattuck offering new made, just like the originals in the 1960's.

Ed

tenbears · 02-27-2008, 12:16 AM

Ron,
Semichrome will take the blue off if it's a cold blue. If it's a salt blue the white cloth will be balck. If it's a rust blue the white cloth will turn brown. This is the first test I do on all Imperial or Weimar TD tools before I even think of measureing. Their is a good thread about this topic on the other forum. I hope this helps.

http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12046

Lugerdoc · 02-28-2008, 10:40 AM

Jerry, I too believe that this is an authentic early nazi era (late 1934 to early 1939) dwe/63 tool. The Sarco repro dwe/63 stamp were hit so hard that the outside rim of the die also made an impression on the tool. TH

tenbears · 04-21-2008, 11:50 PM

Here are some better pictures of the tool in question I took awhile back.

tenbears · 04-21-2008, 11:51 PM

Another one.

02-25-2008, 06:49 PM	#23
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,134 Times in 1,439 Posts	Nick, OK...I rest my case. Must be a good one. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

02-26-2008, 10:12 PM	#25
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Dow, What is the Semi-Chrome test? What does it consist of? Rubbing semi-chrome on to see if the blue comes off? Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

02-27-2008, 12:16 AM	#26
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,974 Thanks: 2,072 Thanked 4,609 Times in 2,123 Posts	semichrome is a cleaner, used for brass, etc. it will clean off the natural rust, so it "might" show if it is older. From what I udnerstand, the thickness of the tool is the best way to decide if real or not. Hardness, well, i have found the fakes to easily bend, so bad i hate them and won't buy a fake. Also, I have seen old lists of luger dealers, both Hoffman and Shattuck offering new made, just like the originals in the 1960's. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-28-2008, 10:40 AM	#28
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Jerry, I too believe that this is an authentic early nazi era (late 1934 to early 1939) dwe/63 tool. The Sarco repro dwe/63 stamp were hit so hard that the outside rim of the die also made an impression on the tool. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

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02-25-2008, 05:19 PM	#21
nickn User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	sorry for the multiple answers i have just put the tool back in the holster and pulled it in and out a number of times and it does not appear to touch the stud

02-26-2008, 12:56 AM	#24
tenbears User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 370 Thanks: 3 Thanked 26 Times in 15 Posts	Something I have not heard mention in this thread yet is the semichrome test to determine if the tool is rust blue or not. I doubt if a fake tool was ever rust blue.