Cut-down Arty Holster...

Pete Ebbink · 01-19-2008, 02:53 PM

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=1603718

drbuster · 01-19-2008, 07:30 PM

Pete, Why do you feel this is a cut down artillery holster? The closure tab was moved but this could have been originally a police type holster. The cut down artillery holsters I have seen are squared off at the bottom.

Navy · 01-19-2008, 07:41 PM

The give away is the remanents of the stitching holes where the rod pocket was removed.

Tom A

Pete Ebbink · 01-19-2008, 07:50 PM

Doc...

Ditto what Tom said...

But it could have been a Navy holster too...???...

drbuster · 01-20-2008, 02:29 PM

You both could be correct. But if the bottom of the "cut-down" holster is rounded, does this mean it was cut from the top?

Pete Ebbink · 01-20-2008, 02:46 PM

Doc,

The square-cut modification is probably the easiest and cheapestway to do it in the Weimar period.

But I think you can take a long LP-08 holster cut it and re-form it (steam process...???) to end up with the round-shaped toe...also.

Navy · 01-20-2008, 03:56 PM

With the hole remanents on the face where the up closure strap was removed, I don't think it could have been a Navy holster unless it was an LP-08 holster pressed into Naval service.

Tom A

lugerholsterrepair · 01-20-2008, 06:37 PM

I have seen many shorter conversions molded at the bottom rather than cut off square. Easily done actually, the leather just has to be wet and dried on a toe mold. The mark of a good Saddler.
Jerry Burney

Pete Ebbink · 01-20-2008, 06:51 PM

Tom,

Didn't some of the Navy holster have a buckle closing feature AND have the mounting-block on the rear of the holster also...???...

Or do the buckle-type Navy holster only have traditional belt loops and never the mounting-block...???...

That is why I suggested this cut-down may have also come from an old Navy holster...

lugerholsterrepair · 01-20-2008, 10:03 PM

Pete, There were two types of Imperial Navy Military holsters. The first type had the stock block and a stud closure. The second type had the belt loops and the buckle fastener.
I have never seen an original Navy with any intermixing of these.
Jerry Burney

Pete Ebbink · 01-20-2008, 11:40 PM

Thanks Jerry...

I remember seeing a few buckeled holsters at the Navy Cabal's display at the NAPCE events...just did not remember what was on the back of the buckeled variety...

Pete Ebbink · 02-08-2008, 09:28 PM

Here is another Arty holster cut down for Police use :

http://cgi.ebay.com/WWI-German-Holst...QQcmdZViewItem

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lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	I have seen many shorter conversions molded at the bottom rather than cut off square. Easily done actually, the leather just has to be wet and dried on a toe mold. The mark of a good Saddler. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

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lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Pete, There were two types of Imperial Navy Military holsters. The first type had the stock block and a stud closure. The second type had the belt loops and the buckle fastener. I have never seen an original Navy with any intermixing of these. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

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01-19-2008, 07:30 PM	#2
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Pete, Why do you feel this is a cut down artillery holster? The closure tab was moved but this could have been originally a police type holster. The cut down artillery holsters I have seen are squared off at the bottom.

01-19-2008, 07:41 PM	#3
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	The give away is the remanents of the stitching holes where the rod pocket was removed. Tom A

01-19-2008, 07:50 PM	#4
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Doc... Ditto what Tom said... But it could have been a Navy holster too...???...

01-20-2008, 02:29 PM	#5
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	You both could be correct. But if the bottom of the "cut-down" holster is rounded, does this mean it was cut from the top?

01-20-2008, 02:46 PM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Doc, The square-cut modification is probably the easiest and cheapestway to do it in the Weimar period. But I think you can take a long LP-08 holster cut it and re-form it (steam process...???) to end up with the round-shaped toe...also.

01-20-2008, 03:56 PM	#7
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	With the hole remanents on the face where the up closure strap was removed, I don't think it could have been a Navy holster unless it was an LP-08 holster pressed into Naval service. Tom A

01-20-2008, 06:51 PM	#9
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Tom, Didn't some of the Navy holster have a buckle closing feature AND have the mounting-block on the rear of the holster also...???... Or do the buckle-type Navy holster only have traditional belt loops and never the mounting-block...???... That is why I suggested this cut-down may have also come from an old Navy holster...

01-20-2008, 11:40 PM	#11
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Thanks Jerry... I remember seeing a few buckeled holsters at the Navy Cabal's display at the NAPCE events...just did not remember what was on the back of the buckeled variety...

02-08-2008, 09:28 PM	#12
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Here is another Arty holster cut down for Police use : http://cgi.ebay.com/WWI-German-Holst...QQcmdZViewItem