BYF-41 and Holster w/pix

ThePitbullofLove · 07-25-2005, 11:36 AM

Greetings gentlemen!

Just found your forum the other day, and I must say I'm impressed.

I've always loved the Luger ever since I was a kid and ran around with a life size pot-metal Luger capgun.

This past year, I finally found one that was in decent condition and was affordable.

It was actually picked up from a gunshop's table at a local gunshow. This vendor deals mostly with commercial arms, and rarely if ever has anything military on their table. Anyway, we were walking by when my brother and my friend both said "Ooooh...Luger!", which caused me to stop dead in my tracks.

And there it was, a Luger, and a period holster. It was offered at $875. Intrigued, I asked to see it. It was a BYF-41, appeared (at least externally) to be all matching, except for the unmarked mag. Hmmm. I gave it back and decided to think about it. That lasted 20 minuted of getting tag-teamed by my friend and my brother telling me how much I needed that pistol.

So I went back, made an offer that I thought was ridiculously low, and well, it came home with me. Turns out this pistol/holster was part of a vet's estate that the shop recently took in. It was the only military gun, save a pre-war Browning Hi-Power that sold earlier in the day. The owner of the shop said he wasn't much into military guns, which I gathered since I walked out with this one for $675.

Got it home, and it is indeed all-matching, except for the un-numbered magazine. The Holster is a bit worn, and appears brownish, 1936 dated with the droop winged eagle (WaA 101), and maker marked "Auvaerter & Bubeck, A.G. Stuttgart".

Inside the holster was an FXO mag with a plastic base. The numbering on the base was so worn as to be illegible.

The mag in the gun was a nickle plated magazine marked with a stylized P at the rear bottom, and wearing what look like Maltese crosses in the dimples of the base. I've been told this is a Swiss mag and that they're fairly well thought of. Is this the case?

So, questions-
Is the nickle mag Swiss? Is it worth any more than a typical magazine?
Is the FXO "correct" for a BYF-41? If not, what is?
What kind of loading tool would be correct?
How about the holster? Common maker? Common color?

The grips are this color on the inside...am I correct in assuming it's best I don't disturb the exterior's "patina"?
What's the deal about walnut vs. black plastic grips in the BYF's?

This is my first Luger, and I'm a bit of a noob, so please bear with me.

Thanks!

Oh, BTW
Link to even MORE pictures of the pistol

07-25-2005, 11:36 AM	#1
ThePitbullofLove User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	BYF-41 and Holster w/pix Greetings gentlemen! Just found your forum the other day, and I must say I'm impressed. I've always loved the Luger ever since I was a kid and ran around with a life size pot-metal Luger capgun. This past year, I finally found one that was in decent condition and was affordable. It was actually picked up from a gunshop's table at a local gunshow. This vendor deals mostly with commercial arms, and rarely if ever has anything military on their table. Anyway, we were walking by when my brother and my friend both said "Ooooh...Luger!", which caused me to stop dead in my tracks. And there it was, a Luger, and a period holster. It was offered at $875. Intrigued, I asked to see it. It was a BYF-41, appeared (at least externally) to be all matching, except for the unmarked mag. Hmmm. I gave it back and decided to think about it. That lasted 20 minuted of getting tag-teamed by my friend and my brother telling me how much I needed that pistol. So I went back, made an offer that I thought was ridiculously low, and well, it came home with me. Turns out this pistol/holster was part of a vet's estate that the shop recently took in. It was the only military gun, save a pre-war Browning Hi-Power that sold earlier in the day. The owner of the shop said he wasn't much into military guns, which I gathered since I walked out with this one for $675. Got it home, and it is indeed all-matching, except for the un-numbered magazine. The Holster is a bit worn, and appears brownish, 1936 dated with the droop winged eagle (WaA 101), and maker marked "Auvaerter & Bubeck, A.G. Stuttgart". Inside the holster was an FXO mag with a plastic base. The numbering on the base was so worn as to be illegible. The mag in the gun was a nickle plated magazine marked with a stylized P at the rear bottom, and wearing what look like Maltese crosses in the dimples of the base. I've been told this is a Swiss mag and that they're fairly well thought of. Is this the case? So, questions- Is the nickle mag Swiss? Is it worth any more than a typical magazine? Is the FXO "correct" for a BYF-41? If not, what is? What kind of loading tool would be correct? How about the holster? Common maker? Common color? The grips are this color on the inside...am I correct in assuming it's best I don't disturb the exterior's "patina"? What's the deal about walnut vs. black plastic grips in the BYF's? This is my first Luger, and I'm a bit of a noob, so please bear with me. Thanks! Oh, BTW Link to even MORE pictures of the pistol