Two new Swiss - Questions

southriv · 04-15-2005, 01:08 AM

Pete,

Thanks for taking the time to do a detailed analysis of the photos. Agreed - photos are hard to make definative judgments from. I've since talked to a couple other Swiss collectors on the phone. They feel, like I do, they are both Swiss reworks, though it is hard to tell from exactly where. There seems to have been too much inconsistancy in the process & lack of records to indicate with any certainty the origin of a rework. There seems to be agreement that the additional crosses are the best indication of a rework. Your observations of the nature of the stamps are also strong evidence.

I'll add a couple interesting observations/thoughts about the 06/24. With one exception, the finish (blue) is identical to that on my other two O6s - one a rework and the other original. However, the slide, particularly the top over the chamber and then back, has a slightly different patina. Now, the inspector's cross over M on the left on this part is (based on my opinion/observation) the only original stamp as it still has the metal raised around the edges -perhaps the slide was not refinished? Anyway, from my talks with others, it seems that most anything is possible. It was also told that reworks are the rule, and originals are the exception. If one uses the multiple cross stampings as one crieria, then most of the pistols shown in Bobba's book are reworks - further substantiating this theory.

Again, thanks for the input. If I get some time, I'll post pics of my 06 Cross in Shield - the contrast, based on the observations you've made, will be apparent. I do like the Swiss Lugers & can appreciate your keen interest and devotion to the study of this particular subset - the quality and care they have recieved over their lives seems to be the exception as opposed to the rule in not only the world of Lugers, but many other collector venues, also.

Bob

04-15-2005, 01:08 AM	#4
southriv User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Countryside New England Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Pete, Thanks for taking the time to do a detailed analysis of the photos. Agreed - photos are hard to make definative judgments from. I've since talked to a couple other Swiss collectors on the phone. They feel, like I do, they are both Swiss reworks, though it is hard to tell from exactly where. There seems to have been too much inconsistancy in the process & lack of records to indicate with any certainty the origin of a rework. There seems to be agreement that the additional crosses are the best indication of a rework. Your observations of the nature of the stamps are also strong evidence. I'll add a couple interesting observations/thoughts about the 06/24. With one exception, the finish (blue) is identical to that on my other two O6s - one a rework and the other original. However, the slide, particularly the top over the chamber and then back, has a slightly different patina. Now, the inspector's cross over M on the left on this part is (based on my opinion/observation) the only original stamp as it still has the metal raised around the edges -perhaps the slide was not refinished? Anyway, from my talks with others, it seems that most anything is possible. It was also told that reworks are the rule, and originals are the exception. If one uses the multiple cross stampings as one crieria, then most of the pistols shown in Bobba's book are reworks - further substantiating this theory. Again, thanks for the input. If I get some time, I'll post pics of my 06 Cross in Shield - the contrast, based on the observations you've made, will be apparent. I do like the Swiss Lugers & can appreciate your keen interest and devotion to the study of this particular subset - the quality and care they have recieved over their lives seems to be the exception as opposed to the rule in not only the world of Lugers, but many other collector venues, also. Bob