Royal Oak,Mich Artillery

Big Norm · 04-14-2005, 02:14 PM

There was some talk in the Discussion section of this forum about a 1915 artillery on the Midwest Ordnance website. I went to this gun shop yesterday to inspect this artillery.

www.midwestordnance.com

Not only is the gun not worth $3000, its not worth $2000 either. Maybe someplace around $1500 or less. It is a 1915 artillery Luger but is has a lot of light freckling on it. The numbers do all match and the gun has not been messed with. But the bore is very badly pitted. What bluing is showing is a dull blue.

The owner said that the gun should be worth a lot of money because a cleaning rods handle matched the grips in color. The grips look like the were recheckerd and not restained. So they matched the blond color of the handle on the artillery cleaning rod. Oh, the bore on the artillery is badly pitted.

The owner also showed me an artillery holster and I don't know if it comes with the gun. But the holster is an after market repro that has been used. The stitching on the strap is loose. The pocket for the take down tool is a repair addition.

I asked if I could see if the grips were numbered to the gun and the owner looked apprehensive. Since I wasn't really interested the gun at this point, I didn't feel the need to push the issue on a minor point after seeing how badly pitted the bore was..

The owner then showed me a chamber dated 1921 9mm P-08 which told me came with two matching mags and a 'numbered to the gun' holster. I didn't get the price but the gun itself did not look real bad. Dull bluing and all matching numbers. The bore did not look too bad either.

The two matching mags were mags that had their numbers filed off and new number stamped on them. The holster had a manufacturers mark on the inside but I could not make it out. Somebody embossed the guns serial number on the outside backside of the holster. The holster didn't seem to be in all that bad a condition. But nothing outstanding.

I should have gotten the price on this rig(?) but I guess that I was too emotionally down after looking at the artillery Luger. Did I tell you that the bore on the artillery was badly pitted?

After hammering the guns so much, I feel its only right to say that the people in the shop were pretty nice. But I still can not imagine how they came up with a price of $3000 on the artillery.
Big Norm

04-14-2005, 02:14 PM	#1
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Royal Oak,Mich Artillery There was some talk in the Discussion section of this forum about a 1915 artillery on the Midwest Ordnance website. I went to this gun shop yesterday to inspect this artillery. www.midwestordnance.com Not only is the gun not worth $3000, its not worth $2000 either. Maybe someplace around $1500 or less. It is a 1915 artillery Luger but is has a lot of light freckling on it. The numbers do all match and the gun has not been messed with. But the bore is very badly pitted. What bluing is showing is a dull blue. The owner said that the gun should be worth a lot of money because a cleaning rods handle matched the grips in color. The grips look like the were recheckerd and not restained. So they matched the blond color of the handle on the artillery cleaning rod. Oh, the bore on the artillery is badly pitted. The owner also showed me an artillery holster and I don't know if it comes with the gun. But the holster is an after market repro that has been used. The stitching on the strap is loose. The pocket for the take down tool is a repair addition. I asked if I could see if the grips were numbered to the gun and the owner looked apprehensive. Since I wasn't really interested the gun at this point, I didn't feel the need to push the issue on a minor point after seeing how badly pitted the bore was.. The owner then showed me a chamber dated 1921 9mm P-08 which told me came with two matching mags and a 'numbered to the gun' holster. I didn't get the price but the gun itself did not look real bad. Dull bluing and all matching numbers. The bore did not look too bad either. The two matching mags were mags that had their numbers filed off and new number stamped on them. The holster had a manufacturers mark on the inside but I could not make it out. Somebody embossed the guns serial number on the outside backside of the holster. The holster didn't seem to be in all that bad a condition. But nothing outstanding. I should have gotten the price on this rig(?) but I guess that I was too emotionally down after looking at the artillery Luger. Did I tell you that the bore on the artillery was badly pitted? After hammering the guns so much, I feel its only right to say that the people in the shop were pretty nice. But I still can not imagine how they came up with a price of $3000 on the artillery. Big Norm