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"less unreliable" sums it up pretty well, I think.
![]() The toggle knobs in the SE 08/2 are definitely more aesthetically pleasing since they're visually closer to the ones which they replace. It makes sense that these work better due to the feed ramp and dedicated ejector, and presuming they were an improvement over the preceding model. But unless I'm mistaken, the extractor system of the SE 08/2 has an open top, unlike the earlier versions which are sort of "tunneled in." This leaves open the possibility that the extractor will decide to go flying off some day, just like happens to Erma's KGP series of toggle pistols. My SE 08 kit wouldn't line up with the sear bar on my 1917 DWM, but fit just fine in my 6" 70s' Mauser Swiss pattern, which is its contemporary...that is, alter I fashioned a new spacer so it would fit into the 6" barrel. The original spacer is for installing the .22 sleeve barrel in a 9mm X 100mm barrel. I think it would fit into a 7" barrel with no spacer, but it's too short for an Artillery's 8" barrel. Ammo picky is extremely correct. Golden Eagle Match Pistol 40 gr LRN does the best in mine--and I tried a lot of different ammo trying to get this thing to work, trust me! You've also got me wondering if the chambers of the kits suffer from the tightness European-cut chambers when compared to chambers with SAAMI specs. I found a thread on another forum about running a "standard" or "Sporting" finishing reamer into the chambers of some of the luger-styled Erma .22s--including La-22, Ep-22 and KGP69--with terrific improvement in their feeding and extracting. I don't see why the process wouldn't also help a kit. Running them "wet" also seems to help. After loading a mag, a spritz of Rem-oil into the mag's slot for the follower button will give improved function.
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