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I bought another of my "favorite" lugers, a Navy issue shortened to 4". This one is quite similar to the one posted here: http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=35683.
The major exception is that it is essentially and original 1916 dated "1914" Navy, still having its original rear sight. Starting its service in 1916 as an Imperial Navy 6" pistol, #200, it served through the end of WWI, and was given the 1920 property stamp of the Weimar Republic in 1920. I believe it probably stayed in service in its original 6" form through the Weimar years. The UK were in "charge" of disarming the Navy and did not seem to care what caliber or barrel length their pistols were. We note many surviving Artillery models with navy grip strap markings and their original 8" barrel. Norm pointed out that #200 has a relieved sear bar; done sometime during its service as the first 1000 or so 1916 Navy lugers had the un-relieved sear bar. Thanks much! Always more to learn. At some point, likely in the mid 1930's IMO, the #200 was shortened to 4" to conform to the "new" standard for the Kreigsmarine side arms. This example was shortened, the original number striker grooved, and the rear toggle pin numbered as was instituted about 1930-32. The flange of the pin is cracked off, being the large diameter flange is it pretty fragile, but since it still has the "00" and enough of and edge to catch, some how it is still there! It also received a Nordsee number of N over 2054 on the back strap about this time. "N" numbers in this range are found on new made Mausers with 1936 date(#424m, N/2009; reported in "Weimar Lugers by Still", indicating that #200 likely received its N2054 marking about 1936. Other 1916/1920 Navies are reported with N2163 and N2316. The front sight was removed and the original barrel turned down to accept a thin ring with sight attached. The replaced front sight has no date, so is from an earlier 1906 model, but is of the correct height to match up with the original adjustable navy rear sight. Most parts are matching -including grips- though one is numbered "00" in a different font, indicating probable replacement when shortened, JMHO. The only mismatched part is the side plate, numbered "78" on the bottom in the navy or commercial style, but also has a 88 on the inside, a bit of a puzzle- it may be a replacement done well after the re-work. The trigger is a likely replacement, but is numbered "00", and oddly on the right side, picture shown. The breech block is an Erfurt replacement part, numbered to match the pistol and likely replaced during re-work; interestingly the striker spring retainer has the E/6 of Simson. I missed taking a picture of the receiver lug, but it is also marked "00", indicating the matching original receiver/bbl/frame combination. Perhaps the best amazing part is the "matching" magazine. A ringed wood bottom mag with C/M and the "N" number crosswise. But on second look, N2051- not 2054; I cannot make it match no matter how hard I look, unless is close my eyes and "wish". ![]() Paid way too much for this one, or bought too early. ![]() But it did come with the nice Navy holster I posted on the holster forum and a very pretty, but incorrect two acceptance Erfurt magazine.
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03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie |
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