LugerForum Discussion Forums my profile | register | faq | search
upload photo | donate | calendar

Go Back   LugerForum Discussion Forums > Luger Discussion Forums > New Collectors Forum

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
Unread 05-13-2012, 08:02 PM   #1
mrerick
Super Moderator - Patron
LugerForum
Life Patron
 
mrerick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA
Posts: 3,909
Thanks: 1,374
Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts
Default Study Identifying Luger Caliber: .30 Luger or 9mm Luger?

Here are some illustrations to help with identifying the caliber your luger was made in.

The original Luger cartridge was the .30 Luger (7.65x21mm Parabellum), a bottleneck cartridge. The chamber that this cartridge fits into has a stepped shape that supports the bottleneck.

The 9mm Luger (9mm x 19mm Parabellum) cartridge has a similar cartridge base, and does not have the bottleneck. This is why the one Luger magazine design can work with both cartridges.

Several posts mention the "pencil test". The fact is that a hex shaped (sharp edges) No. 2 pencil Will snugly fit down a .30 Luger caliber barrel. A round No. 2 pencil generally will not fit down the .30 Luger barrel.

Both pencils will loosely fit down a 9mm Luger barrel.

The pictures attached to this post are annotated.

They first show a 9mm cartridge placed in a .30 Luger barrel's chamber. It will NOT fit properly into this chamber, and would do damage if it went off (photos are of a dummy cartridge). It will stick out of the chamber, and the toggle train will not go into battery.

Next, pictures show how a 9mm Luger round will rest on the end of a .30 Luger barrel, and a 9mm Luger barrel.

Next, a Hex No. 2 pencil fits tightly into a .30 Luger barrel, and a Round No. 2 pencil rests on top of the .30 Luger Barrel.

Next, a Hex No. 2 pencil fits loosely into a 9mm Luger barrel, and a Round No. 2 pencil fits loosely into a 9mm Barrel.

Hope that these help you identify the caliber of your Luger!

Marc
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	9mmIn30LugerChamber.jpg
Views:	409
Size:	118.0 KB
ID:	26421  

Click image for larger version

Name:	9mmIn30LugerChamberBottom.jpg
Views:	367
Size:	94.2 KB
ID:	26422  

Click image for larger version

Name:	9mmIn30LugerChamberTop.jpg
Views:	396
Size:	101.2 KB
ID:	26423  

Click image for larger version

Name:	9mmIn30LugerBarrel.jpg
Views:	403
Size:	74.4 KB
ID:	26424  

Click image for larger version

Name:	9mmIn9mmLugerBarrel.jpg
Views:	366
Size:	77.8 KB
ID:	26425  

Click image for larger version

Name:	HexPencilIn30LugerBarrel.jpg
Views:	380
Size:	78.6 KB
ID:	26426  

Click image for larger version

Name:	RoundPencilIn30LugerBarrel.jpg
Views:	358
Size:	73.9 KB
ID:	26427  

Click image for larger version

Name:	HexPencilIn9mmLugerBarrel.jpg
Views:	398
Size:	75.8 KB
ID:	26428  

Click image for larger version

Name:	RoundPencilIn9mmLugerBarrel.jpg
Views:	373
Size:	71.4 KB
ID:	26429  

__________________
Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum -
- Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

Last edited by mrerick; 04-23-2017 at 07:55 PM.
mrerick is offline   Reply With Quote
The following 3 members says Thank You to mrerick for your post:
 

Tags
caliber, pencil, test


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2024, Lugerforum.com