Looking for 1905 45 ACP Luger blueprints

LugerMan.com · 02-14-2012, 10:19 PM

Thanks for input everyone,
let me address all the points that where listed:

1. Price points:
Standard 1905 45 ACP will be around $12k-13k
Navy Model 1905 45 ACP will be around $13k-14k
Artillery Model 1905 in 45 ACP will be $14k-15k
Carbine 1905 45 ACP will be $17k-18k

Multiple orders will get 5% discount
FFL orders will get 10% discount

2. Timing: I do have a machinist working for me now. He is helping me out when i need some small parts made, that can not be found. Artillery barrels is one of them. He is just not a full time with me now. But that can change if i find more for him to do. I do have a shop with industrial tooling. So making parts is not a problem.
I am an engineer by trade , so i can estimate production cost and time. I am thinking that withing a year time i will have all parts that a re needed made.
Then it will take about a 2-3 weeks for the first gun to show up.
And the last will show up withing a 1 year . So i take it full production cycle for 20 guns is 2 years with one man working full time on it.. I hire a second machinist for a second shift on the mill, i can cut production by 30% or so.

I know almost everything there is to know about luger functioning, so I am sure i can make then work reliably. Or at least as good as original was working. ;0)

If you been on my site and have seen or purchased carbines from me, you know that metal work is done right.

I made some small parts for 1900 Model including triggers and extractors.

My plan is to do the same as Mike K did, and first production gun will go to Guns and Ammo for a show and tell.

My press , or bed press anyways ... is all about time lines.
Find someone complaining about quality and then we will talk.

There will be a legal notarized contract, that will secure down payment funds and timeline.

I just need small amount of people willing to invest there money in to a a dream.

And I will get my machinist busy full time.
I an even report on the progress made.

And yes the frame is the hardest, and i will start with that, because if that is done the rest is not a problem.

I think it will take 4 month to produce 20 frames , so all of initial investors will know when the frames are done.

3. As far as Cone hummers and other guns, it's interesting that it came up so quickly. As I was thinking exactly same way. Every one reproduces revolvers , but no one goes for auto reproductions. I'd take on Mannlichers , Cone and other turn of the century guns.

But i think Luger 45 ACP is so iconic , that it's the only gun that people will pay 15k and up for .

All and all i see support as well as some natural skepticism. I hope love for collector guns will overcome the fear.

Because as crazy as i am , i will not be able to do this in a vacuum.

By the number of responses in one day, I take it it' s a hot topic.

Thanks.

02-14-2012, 10:19 PM	#9
LugerMan.com User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 377 Thanks: 91 Thanked 364 Times in 116 Posts	Thanks for the input Thanks for input everyone, let me address all the points that where listed: 1. Price points: Standard 1905 45 ACP will be around $12k-13k Navy Model 1905 45 ACP will be around $13k-14k Artillery Model 1905 in 45 ACP will be $14k-15k Carbine 1905 45 ACP will be $17k-18k Multiple orders will get 5% discount FFL orders will get 10% discount 2. Timing: I do have a machinist working for me now. He is helping me out when i need some small parts made, that can not be found. Artillery barrels is one of them. He is just not a full time with me now. But that can change if i find more for him to do. I do have a shop with industrial tooling. So making parts is not a problem. I am an engineer by trade , so i can estimate production cost and time. I am thinking that withing a year time i will have all parts that a re needed made. Then it will take about a 2-3 weeks for the first gun to show up. And the last will show up withing a 1 year . So i take it full production cycle for 20 guns is 2 years with one man working full time on it.. I hire a second machinist for a second shift on the mill, i can cut production by 30% or so. I know almost everything there is to know about luger functioning, so I am sure i can make then work reliably. Or at least as good as original was working. ;0) If you been on my site and have seen or purchased carbines from me, you know that metal work is done right. I made some small parts for 1900 Model including triggers and extractors. My plan is to do the same as Mike K did, and first production gun will go to Guns and Ammo for a show and tell. My press , or bed press anyways ... is all about time lines. Find someone complaining about quality and then we will talk. There will be a legal notarized contract, that will secure down payment funds and timeline. I just need small amount of people willing to invest there money in to a a dream. And I will get my machinist busy full time. I an even report on the progress made. And yes the frame is the hardest, and i will start with that, because if that is done the rest is not a problem. I think it will take 4 month to produce 20 frames , so all of initial investors will know when the frames are done. 3. As far as Cone hummers and other guns, it's interesting that it came up so quickly. As I was thinking exactly same way. Every one reproduces revolvers , but no one goes for auto reproductions. I'd take on Mannlichers , Cone and other turn of the century guns. But i think Luger 45 ACP is so iconic , that it's the only gun that people will pay 15k and up for . All and all i see support as well as some natural skepticism. I hope love for collector guns will overcome the fear. Because as crazy as i am , i will not be able to do this in a vacuum. By the number of responses in one day, I take it it' s a hot topic. Thanks.