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WPMAClassofJanuary43
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Default Help with IDing and Valuing

Hello, I am new here and so if this is going in the wrong place, please gently let me know and I'll go to the right place.

I inherited some weapons from my father, a WWII and Korean War Veteran Officer. I am trying to identify a Luger that my father captured from a German soldier in Northern France in late 1943 or early 1944. (He was commander of an engineer's battalion building bridges at various fronts there.)

I will list as much as I can accurately and would appreciate advice for holes, or any help you might offer.

Toggle Inscription: 42
Chamber Inscription: 1939
Toggle Knobs: Squared and Knurled, as far as I can tell. They are grooved and the corners are "squared" I guess...?

No Grip Safety. There is a Thumb Safety, with the word "GESICHERT" in the firing position (not safe). The safe position is down.

Stock Lug: I'm not sure about this--there is groove that looks like something could slide up it, but I couldn't find more info on this.

9mm.

Grip Type: It is definitely wood, a fairly dark color, with diamond-shaped checks, no border on wood, no insignia on wood.

Barrel length: from the tip to the place it starts inside the chamber, is 4" or about 9.6cm.

The markings on the left edge of extractor: There are two very small "birds" or "eagles" with the number "655" on the non-safety side of the chamber. Next to these two there is another insignia. These are all similar to Proof Marks 47 from the LugerForum site.

Sights: Tough to describe: I couldn't find any way to adjust the rear sight. It is a very small "V" in a ridge that is 8mm wide and about 2.5mm tall. The front sight has grooves on it on the surface facing the chamber/rear of the pistol. It measures about 7mm wide at the base, and the upper part is triangulated to about 1.5mm or so. Both the base and the upper part are grooved. No other surface on either sight is grooved. The front sight's profile shape is that of an acute scalene triangle with the third, long side slightly convex.

The Magazine Bottom plug is wood, bears an even-legged cross on it, with the number 8844 debossed on it.

All other serial numbers match. There is the number 8700 in three places: on the side of the chamber, on the bottom of the barrel near where it attaches to the chamber, and on the chamber near the threads for the barrel. There are at least five "00"s that I see: on the side of the chamber, on the lever above the trigger, on the part of the sliding mechanism that the safety covers, and two on top of the chamber--one directly behind the 42, and the other, smaller, on the tongue part of the tongue and groove where the slider meets the front of the chamber.

Underneath, there is a scripted lower case cursive "y" similar to the "y" in the second page of the suffix information. This is sort of between the top of the trigger gguard and the barrel

The non-safety side of the barrel also has two much smaller marks, near where it screws into the chamber area. The first is another eagle, the second looks like a six-legger spider (in stick figure detail). Basicaly it is three lines that cross like an asterisk.

I don't know enough about color to comment too much, but it is a black with grey.

I appreciate any help you can offer me. I am also willing to pay someone to help ID it and eventually value it, but I'm not sure if that's allowed here. (I just went to look for the rules about that and couldn't find any.) I will check here, or if anyone would like to email me, I'm at mark@skatepunk.net

Sincere thanks. This site has already been so helpful to me.
Mark
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