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Unread 05-01-2004, 12:37 AM   #1
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Unhappy I might be able to undo this if I overpaid, if I act soon

Hi All...

I today bought my first Luger! I have been wanting one for years, but never made any moves toward getting one. Well, now I think I overpaid by quite a bit. Can someone let me know? I may be able to get out of the sale Monday, if I don't sit on it too ling.

I downloaded the Luger Identification Form for the technical section. Here is the data:

Toggle inscription: byf
Chamber inscription: 42
Toggle know type: round knobs with groves on the edge and checkering on the surface
Grip safety: not present
stock lug: present
cal: 9mm
Grip type: Wood, not sure what kind. Checkered and no border
Safety: Safe in rear position, word GESICHERT under lever, covered when in fire position
Markings:

- Right side of frame has proof markings that look like #46 (from this site). Of the three marks, the left two have the number 135 stamped under them, the right most does not have this.

- Right side of barrel has a very small mark that looks like an eagle with wings spread. There is something under it but I canâ??t make out what.

- Another mark that looks like an eagle is on the barrel half way down between the top and the left side. Itâ??s a different looking eagle. This is near the rear of the outside of the barrel.

- Additionally, on the barrel near the rear on the left side is something that could be another mark or maybe just a nick. Iâ??m not really sure.

- The left side of the extractor has a mark similar to that described above.

- Left side of frame is marked P.08

- Very front of frame has the serial number 2502 with a lower case script letter I below the number.

Barrel length is 4 inches

Magazine: There are two magazines, one in better condition then the other. Neither serial number matches the gun

Mag 1: Bottom appears to be aluminum. The number 34 is stamped in it. Below the number is a lower case script letter n. Below the n is a small eagle, below which there seem to be two letters I can not make out. This mag is very clean, with some finish worn off.

Mag 2: Same material base plug as the first, with the number 2149 and the lower case script letter a (I think). The same )or a very similar) symbol is below the letter. This mag is in worse shape with rust.

Bluing percentage remaining: I am very poor at estimating this. In general, this pistol has a lot of blue, except where the holster would wear it on high points and on the muzzle crown. The trigger plate has some wear on the bump. On the right hand side there is a raised bar that runs the length of the frame. The front of this bar has some wear. Above this bar is a shorter bar that is flush with the frame. The middle of this bar has the finish rubbed off. The grip back and front straps look good, as does the trigger.

Bore: The chamber and barrel look great inside. I was very surprised.

Grips: I canâ??t see any scratches or nicks or other chunks of wood missing. The checkering is in good shape. The grips seem dirty and could stand to be cleaned.

Serial numbers: The SN of this pistol is 2502 and it appears all the numbers match. The full SN is stamped on it in several places and the number 02 is all over the smaller parts. The SNs on the magazines however, are different, as discussed above.

Holster: This pistol came with a leather holster that I am told is original. Itâ??s black in some places but brown in others. Iâ??m not sure if itâ??s dirty, faded or worn, but it does not feel worn. Its smooth. There are several scratches where the flap closes. The strip of leather that buckles it closed is torn about half way through right where the flap ends. The number 1939 is stamped in the back. I am told this is a SN of a pistol that went into it. There is a hard to read name stamped above the number, and I am told this is the manufactures name. About an inch or so below the number some smaller letters and numbers are stamped in a semi-circular pattern. There is a spot to store the take-down tool, but no take-down tool.

I am told this pistol was brought back by a GI during WWII. I canâ??t prove it. There are no import stamps of any type on it, so it is plausible. It was part of a large collection, but the collector passed away. The collection is being sold for the estate by someone who has been selling guns for decades, and just collectibles for the past 10+ years. He is also an NRA official. I believe he is extremely honest, but he may also not be current on prices.

I would appreciate any comments and will happily answer any questions. Thanks very, very, very much!

Jim
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