Odd Swiss 1906 Bern

Pete Ebbink · 10-20-2006, 12:59 PM

Murray,

Shattuck here in the USA has had several of these...claimed to be "presentation pieces"...some for sale. In a past email to me, Ralph also stated these were "salesman factory samples" when I asked about one that was for sale on Gun Borker. A couple of such of those are photo'd in some of the old luger books.

I think they are just "assembled" guns with various parts.

The prototypes (aka hybrids) from Switzerland from the old Bern factory and museum have a "V-x" serial number added. Shattuck's pieces do not if I recall correctly.

Doug Smith had one of the Swiss prototypes number V-12 at the last SOS show in KY. As he did a disassembly for me, Ron Wood, and others, we discovered the gun was actually a M1899 prototype No. 22 which had a M1929 toggle train added and the V-12 number assigned.

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10-20-2006, 12:59 PM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts	Murray, Shattuck here in the USA has had several of these...claimed to be "presentation pieces"...some for sale. In a past email to me, Ralph also stated these were "salesman factory samples" when I asked about one that was for sale on Gun Borker. A couple of such of those are photo'd in some of the old luger books. I think they are just "assembled" guns with various parts. The prototypes (aka hybrids) from Switzerland from the old Bern factory and museum have a "V-x" serial number added. Shattuck's pieces do not if I recall correctly. Doug Smith had one of the Swiss prototypes number V-12 at the last SOS show in KY. As he did a disassembly for me, Ron Wood, and others, we discovered the gun was actually a M1899 prototype No. 22 which had a M1929 toggle train added and the V-12 number assigned.