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Unread 06-15-2001, 08:03 AM   #1
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Default Stainless Lugers Quality

I was just curious as to how many out there have either a Mitchell or a Stoeger Luger manufactured by AIMCO in Texas. What are your opinions on the quality and accuracy of your Luger? Feel free to add anything else that you would care to comment on. Thanks to all who reply.



 
Unread 06-15-2001, 08:07 AM   #2
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Default Re: Stainless Lugers Quality

Brad, I think you will get mixed comments on these Lugers. Jerry Boyle wrote an article on them. You can read it and see pictures if you go to the "Owners Corner" and open the Stoger INOX Luger story under his name. Thor



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Unread 06-15-2001, 10:01 AM   #3
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My Aimco Luger is more accurate than it has quality. It looks nice and feels nice but looking at the internals, there's little pits or holes on different parts. (Example the breech block along the slide area). The safety will move or drop down when shooting and you have to push up on it to fire, maybe it's an auto lock feature.

All in all I think its a kick to shoot, especially when I use the right ammo, some ammo will dimple the primers and I have to retry 3-4 time before they fire. I am sure if I had a Gunsmith look at it they could improve it somewhat. Anyway thats my opinions. Thanks



 
Unread 06-15-2001, 02:58 PM   #4
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I don't know who had manufactured the mithcell arms lugers I have expericne of but it's sure one of the most horrible guns I EVER have worked with.

The fittings was extremely poor, they don't seems to know what is important within a luger.

The exterior and interior finnish is really lousy.


Besides stainless steel is no good material for semiautomatic pistols, normally it have a tendency to gall.


You better spend you money on a good non mathcing luger is you just want a shooter.


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Unread 06-15-2001, 03:14 PM   #5
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Default Re: Stainless Lugers Quality

Hakan is absolutely right about stainless steel being one of the worst materials to try and make a gun from. As he said, stainless steel does not like to work against itself and has a tendency to gall if not properly lubricated. The makers alleviate some of this problem by using a very low grade of stainless steel, and by keeping tolerances on the loose side. On the plus side, you can refinish your own pistol with just a roll of abrasive cloth.



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Unread 06-15-2001, 03:19 PM   #6
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Default stainless in Lugers

Another plus is that it will not rust if you use it as a weight when you go fishing.


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Unread 06-15-2001, 03:43 PM   #7
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ITs not by any means impossible to make a stainless steel semiauto pistol that never will gaul.

There is two ways of doing this.


1. Make the gun really seriusely loose, then its likely to never see any problems more than them of bad feeling, bad accuracy and a generally boring gun. (1911 stainless is a good example of this, and try to make a 1911 stainless tight, The mithell arms luger is another good ecample.)


2. Make the gun of first class stell and harden it to proper hardness. This would deffinitely work as good as a blued gun regardless of tightness.

But the gun would be very exensive.

I don't know of any such gun yet.


Why spening your dollars on rubbish when quality costs the same? or just slightly more?


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Unread 06-15-2001, 04:36 PM   #8
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Hey, I liked your posts Rick! Thor



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Unread 06-15-2001, 10:32 PM   #9
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Hakan, I can tell you know what you are talking about. I don't like to "dis" any effort to promote the use of lugers, but it sure would have been perferable to make them out of mild steel and interchangable parts with a standard PO8. I looked into purchasing parts from AIMCO years ago, but they won't work in a standard PO8.



 
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Default Re: Stainless Lugers Quality and gold cup

Rick


The Gold cup is in my opinion a very poor gun to compere with as they are of very cheap quality compered to its price.

I don't even consider the Gol Cup to be a competition gun as the accuracy, triggerpull and sights are far too poor.

The hole gold cup needs to be rebuilt to be usefull and then you could as well do the same things with a government.


By the way Gold cups are generally not very tight, at least none of them I have shot or worked with.


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Unread 06-16-2001, 01:58 AM   #11
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Default Re: Stainless Lugers

Tom ;

This is the first time I have presumedm to add my $.02 , to your comments .


My opinion as to the use of ss steel is mainly in the excellent adaptability of this steel to the investment casting process , This reduces the machining process by eliminating many machine setups and machining passes .

Production economy you know. (the bottom line)

In addition many persons prefer a non rusting finish on a utility firearm .


Thanks for listening .


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