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02-17-2004, 11:58 AM | #1 |
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Earliest LP-08 Pistols...?
Was reading in Mauro Baudino's new book on Artillery Lugers that early evaluations of the LP-08 occurred in the first half of 1913 and was formally accepted by Captain A. Fisher in the June-July 1913 timeframe...
Any agreed-upon thoughts as to what LP-08 pistols were used for these evaluations in 1913 ? How many pistols were involved in the evaluations ? What serial numbers, if known... Would these LP-08's have been un-dated pistols (maybe like the 1st. Issue P-08's) or would they have had an earlier chamber date (i.e. 1913) or did they have 1914 chamber dates ? Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" /> |
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Hello Pete,
Gortz wrote in his book that 20 pre-production LP08 were sent to the Kriegsministerium in date 5th february 1912. Kenyon have analysed the pre-production LP08 number 37 in "The Gun Report". According to him: - the chamber is undated; - the numbers (1..8) in the rear sight are engraved; - the diameter of the adjusting screw is larger than the screw used in the production; - the serial number is placed on the frame under the barrel; - the rear sight is tuned in a different way wrt the production model; - the military proof are not struck on the pistol. One of this pistol is also present in the Kenyonâ??s book â??Luger the Multi-National Pistolâ? with some accessories. I hope this helps
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02-17-2004, 05:03 PM | #3 |
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Hello Mauro,
This is exactly the info. I was looking for. On page 94-95 of C. Kenyon's 2nd. book... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" /> |
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by mauro:
<strong>Hello Pete, Gortz wrote in his book that 20 pre-production LP08 were sent to the Kriegsministerium in date 5th february 1912. Kenyon have analysed the pre-production LP08 number 37 in "The Gun Report". According to him: - the chamber is undated; - the numbers (1..8) in the rear sight are engraved; - the diameter of the adjusting screw is larger than the screw used in the production; - the serial number is placed on the frame under the barrel; - the rear sight is tuned in a different way wrt the production model; - the military proof are not struck on the pistol. One of this pistol is also present in the Kenyonâ??s book â??Luger the Multi-National Pistolâ? with some accessories. I hope this helps</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">What are the serialnumbers/suffix on theese guns? |
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Hello Peter,
as far as I know only two or three pre-production LP08 are reported. The LP08 analysed in the "The Gun Report" by Mr. Kenyon is numbered 37. I am abroad in vacation, as soon as I go back to home I will try to collect other information concerning this interesting topic. Ciao
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02-21-2004, 03:36 PM | #6 |
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I would like to add some additional information to Mauro's observations:
The rear part of the frame is not reinforced proving that these pre-production pistols were made from earlier P-08 frames. The highest serial number so far reported in #56. Cheers, Albert |
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