Loading tools ID

Roadster 02 · 08-21-2018, 10:47 PM

I have 4 loading tools 2 marked WaA 920, 1 marked WaA 63, and 1 marked "stick" eagle 63. What years pistols do these go with?

See pics below

tharpo · 08-21-2018, 11:15 PM

Can you post pictures? There are several variations of E/63 tools. I'm not aware of a 920 stamped tool.

Roadster 02 · 08-21-2018, 11:18 PM

See pics below.

John Sabato · 08-22-2018, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadster 02

Sorry can't do Pics. Not sure how.

In the New Collectors Forum, you will find a "sticky" post that describes all you need to know about posting photographs... If you know how to email pictures to someone else, then you already know at least half of the process. Give it a try...

Roadster 02 · 08-26-2018, 10:31 PM

From left to right WaA 920, WaA 63, WaA 920, Eagle 63,
eagle unreadable, eagle.

Norme · 08-26-2018, 10:41 PM

Hi Tom,
Th 3 tools in the top photo look fake to me, they're the wrong shape. The 3 in the lower photo are possibly genuine but your photos are too poor to make out their inspection marks.
Regards, Norm

DonVoigt · 08-26-2018, 11:22 PM

I believe only the "rusty" one is good. JMHO.

klaus 3338 · 08-27-2018, 04:29 AM

On the photo below are both E/63 tools correct. The one right and the WaA 920 tools are fakes

Roadster 02 · 08-27-2018, 10:21 PM

Here are some more pics. still not a great photo, but maybe you guys can make them out.

John Sabato · 08-28-2018, 12:18 PM

I think they are all reproductions. The one in the center in particular, although mechanically functional, appears to have a fake KriegsMarine marking.

The "lip" which is very visible in the center tool's hole is essential for use as a loading tool. The two on the right and left appear to not even have this lip, or at least in the photos, if they do have them, they appear to be inadequate for the loading purpose of the tool.

Roadster 02 · 08-28-2018, 12:36 PM

One more time, I think these are better photos. Thanks for all the help.

Luger1920 · 09-08-2018, 10:04 AM

Though I posted this yesterday. Does anyone have a quality repro tool ?

Mods - if this question is not allowed, PM me directly.

George Anderson · 09-08-2018, 10:17 AM

[QUOTE=Luger1920;319030]Though I posted this yesterday. Does anyone have a quality repro tool ?

Mods - if this question is not allowed, PM me directly.[/QUOTE

Your best bet is to buy an East German tool. They can be identified by the serated thumb extension. There's one on ebay now and it's cheap.

mrerick · 09-08-2018, 12:27 PM

IIRC, the shift to "WaA" style acceptance markings happened well after production was shifted from Lugers to P.38 pistols in 1942 at Mauser.

Is it known if production of the tools continued anywhere afer 1942?

08-21-2018, 10:47 PM	#1
Roadster 02 User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Rocky Mountain High Posts: 312 Thanks: 173 Thanked 248 Times in 86 Posts	Loading tools ID I have 4 loading tools 2 marked WaA 920, 1 marked WaA 63, and 1 marked "stick" eagle 63. What years pistols do these go with? See pics below Last edited by Roadster 02; 08-26-2018 at 10:33 PM.

08-21-2018, 11:18 PM	#3
Roadster 02 User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Rocky Mountain High Posts: 312 Thanks: 173 Thanked 248 Times in 86 Posts	See pics below. Last edited by Roadster 02; 08-26-2018 at 10:33 PM.

08-26-2018, 10:31 PM	#5
Roadster 02 User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Rocky Mountain High Posts: 312 Thanks: 173 Thanked 248 Times in 86 Posts	tool pics From left to right WaA 920, WaA 63, WaA 920, Eagle 63, eagle unreadable, eagle. Attached Thumbnails

08-26-2018, 11:22 PM	#7
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	I believe only the "rusty" one is good. JMHO. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

08-27-2018, 10:21 PM	#9
Roadster 02 User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Rocky Mountain High Posts: 312 Thanks: 173 Thanked 248 Times in 86 Posts	pics Here are some more pics. still not a great photo, but maybe you guys can make them out. Attached Thumbnails

08-21-2018, 11:15 PM	#2
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 543 Thanks: 116 Thanked 382 Times in 157 Posts	Can you post pictures? There are several variations of E/63 tools. I'm not aware of a 920 stamped tool.

08-26-2018, 10:41 PM	#6
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Tom, Th 3 tools in the top photo look fake to me, they're the wrong shape. The 3 in the lower photo are possibly genuine but your photos are too poor to make out their inspection marks. Regards, Norm

08-27-2018, 04:29 AM	#8
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 517 Thanks: 0 Thanked 411 Times in 160 Posts	On the photo below are both E/63 tools correct. The one right and the WaA 920 tools are fakes

08-28-2018, 12:18 PM	#10
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	I think they are all reproductions. The one in the center in particular, although mechanically functional, appears to have a fake KriegsMarine marking. The "lip" which is very visible in the center tool's hole is essential for use as a loading tool. The two on the right and left appear to not even have this lip, or at least in the photos, if they do have them, they appear to be inadequate for the loading purpose of the tool. Attached Images __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-28-2018, 12:36 PM	#11
Roadster 02 User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Rocky Mountain High Posts: 312 Thanks: 173 Thanked 248 Times in 86 Posts	New poics One more time, I think these are better photos. Thanks for all the help. Attached Thumbnails

09-08-2018, 10:04 AM	#12
Luger1920 User Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Midwest Posts: 5 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Though I posted this yesterday. Does anyone have a quality repro tool ? Mods - if this question is not allowed, PM me directly. Last edited by Luger1920; 09-08-2018 at 10:06 AM. Reason: Resume question

09-08-2018, 10:17 AM	#13
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	[QUOTE=Luger1920;319030]Though I posted this yesterday. Does anyone have a quality repro tool ? Mods - if this question is not allowed, PM me directly.[/QUOTE Your best bet is to buy an East German tool. They can be identified by the serated thumb extension. There's one on ebay now and it's cheap.

09-08-2018, 12:27 PM	#14
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	IIRC, the shift to "WaA" style acceptance markings happened well after production was shifted from Lugers to P.38 pistols in 1942 at Mauser. Is it known if production of the tools continued anywhere afer 1942? __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.