P.06 Navy Luger - Page 2

phoenix · 12-09-2002, 05:03 PM

Oh, forgot to mention that it's got it its matching numbered stock and holster. It belonged to an officer in S.B.III who was captured by the Japanese in 1914.

Ron Wood · 12-09-2002, 05:26 PM

Phoenix,
Slight correction. It is a Navy 1906 1st issue UNaltered "Gouv. Kiau." Congratulations on your Gouv. Kiau. You are very fortunate.
Regards,
Ron

phoenix · 12-09-2002, 05:55 PM

Hi Ron, thanks for your comment. It is an ALTERED safety. I will post photos of the complete rig as well as close ups later.

Regards,
Steve

Ron Wood · 12-09-2002, 07:17 PM

I'm sorry, I wasn't clear in my statement. JohnF's Luger, O.M.D.2.6.,is UNaltered. You are correct that your Luger serial no. 3886 is altered. I misunderstood and thought you were going to add John's Luger to your list, but you were saying you were adding your gun to the list of known Gouv. Kiau. Lugers! I apologize for the mix up. I am a little slow sometimes.

Heinz · 12-09-2002, 09:00 PM

Phoenix. I have a list I am compiling of the 1906 variation Navies. I would like to include your pistol. If you send me the following information I will send you a copy of the list.

serial number
safety position: altered
method of removal of old "gesichert" marking
Is the new Gesichert in upper case GESICHERT
or lower case "Gesichert"
Grip strap or dockyard markings.

There is a copy of the list posted on the forum by John Sabato in the Navy section.

Thanks, Heinz

Brandon · 12-09-2002, 11:13 PM

Heinz,
Do you mind if I save a copy of your 1906 Navy list in my "Luger files"?

Regards,Brandon

phoenix · 12-10-2002, 09:21 AM

OK Heinz! I will take some good close-ups that will answer all your questions. I lokk forward to receiving the list afterwards. Regards, Steve

Heinz · 12-10-2002, 07:25 PM

Steve, great, I can already see your old mark was milled off with no filling. Look forward to the rest.

Brandon, check your private email

Big Norm · 12-11-2002, 03:45 AM

Every so often I am completely dumbstruck by the quality of some individuals collections. To have a treasure like that, that includes not only a rare 1906 navy Luger but also an equally rare stock and holster just leaves me speechless. I have a small collection of maybe 40 Lugers that I am quite proud of and that I am guilty of bragging too much. But then I think on ShattuckÃ¢??s 550+ Lugers and Doug Smiths 451 Luger gun collection (not including one-of-a-kind accessories that even his staff don't know how to categorize). Then I think of the other names that have popped up over time whose collection are in the 200+ area and I feel totally humbled. What I respectfully would like to see though is PhoenixÃ¢??s' pictures of the markings on the straps and any other markings of the holster and shoulder stock posted on the forums owners picture book. Phoenix, your posted picture is great, but it does not do enough justice to entire treasure that you have. More pictures, please.
Big Norm

phoenix · 12-13-2002, 10:47 AM

Hi guys, I've finally taken a few photos of the Navy 1906 1st issue altered complete set. You can see them in my album at http://gallery.rennlist.com/lugergallery/S-A-Petroni

Enjoy and let me have your comments.

Steve

12-09-2002, 05:03 PM	#21
phoenix User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oh, forgot to mention that it's got it its matching numbered stock and holster. It belonged to an officer in S.B.III who was captured by the Japanese in 1914. __________________ Stephen A. Petroni www.fesac.eu

12-09-2002, 05:26 PM	#22
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,256 Times in 1,724 Posts	Phoenix, Slight correction. It is a Navy 1906 1st issue UNaltered "Gouv. Kiau." Congratulations on your Gouv. Kiau. You are very fortunate. Regards, Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

12-09-2002, 05:55 PM	#23
phoenix User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Ron, thanks for your comment. It is an ALTERED safety. I will post photos of the complete rig as well as close ups later. Regards, Steve __________________ Stephen A. Petroni www.fesac.eu

12-09-2002, 07:17 PM	#24
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,256 Times in 1,724 Posts	I'm sorry, I wasn't clear in my statement. JohnF's Luger, O.M.D.2.6.,is UNaltered. You are correct that your Luger serial no. 3886 is altered. I misunderstood and thought you were going to add John's Luger to your list, but you were saying you were adding your gun to the list of known Gouv. Kiau. Lugers! I apologize for the mix up. I am a little slow sometimes. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

12-10-2002, 09:21 AM	#27
phoenix User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	OK Heinz! I will take some good close-ups that will answer all your questions. I lokk forward to receiving the list afterwards. Regards, Steve __________________ Stephen A. Petroni www.fesac.eu

12-09-2002, 09:00 PM	#25
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 411 Times in 180 Posts	Phoenix. I have a list I am compiling of the 1906 variation Navies. I would like to include your pistol. If you send me the following information I will send you a copy of the list. serial number safety position: altered method of removal of old "gesichert" marking Is the new Gesichert in upper case GESICHERT or lower case "Gesichert" Grip strap or dockyard markings. There is a copy of the list posted on the forum by John Sabato in the Navy section. Thanks, Heinz

12-09-2002, 11:13 PM	#26
Brandon User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 329 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Heinz, Do you mind if I save a copy of your 1906 Navy list in my "Luger files"? Regards,Brandon

12-10-2002, 07:25 PM	#28
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 411 Times in 180 Posts	Steve, great, I can already see your old mark was milled off with no filling. Look forward to the rest. Brandon, check your private email

12-11-2002, 03:45 AM	#29
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Every so often I am completely dumbstruck by the quality of some individuals collections. To have a treasure like that, that includes not only a rare 1906 navy Luger but also an equally rare stock and holster just leaves me speechless. I have a small collection of maybe 40 Lugers that I am quite proud of and that I am guilty of bragging too much. But then I think on ShattuckÃ¢??s 550+ Lugers and Doug Smiths 451 Luger gun collection (not including one-of-a-kind accessories that even his staff don't know how to categorize). Then I think of the other names that have popped up over time whose collection are in the 200+ area and I feel totally humbled. What I respectfully would like to see though is PhoenixÃ¢??s' pictures of the markings on the straps and any other markings of the holster and shoulder stock posted on the forums owners picture book. Phoenix, your posted picture is great, but it does not do enough justice to entire treasure that you have. More pictures, please. Big Norm

12-13-2002, 10:47 AM	#30
phoenix User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi guys, I've finally taken a few photos of the Navy 1906 1st issue altered complete set. You can see them in my album at http://gallery.rennlist.com/lugergallery/S-A-Petroni Enjoy and let me have your comments. Steve __________________ Stephen A. Petroni www.fesac.eu