Interested in two modern, any comments on them?

alvin · 09-20-2015, 10:20 AM

Both are current production.

Remington 1911R1 Stainless NIB, asking $700
IWI Tavor basic model NIB, asking $1700

Any range experience on them? Good, average, poor? Price too high or OK (not low for sure)...

Sergio Natali · 09-20-2015, 11:38 AM

Alv

Being also a 1911 aficionado I can say that I tested the Remington R1 right after it came on the market, as far as I can remember it worked fine, it had a nice trigger pull, a pretty good finishing.
Since I belong to the "1911 old school" I did appreciate the efforts to produce such a classic 1911.

Rgds

Sergio

JD · 09-24-2015, 04:43 PM

I have a Tavor with an 18" barrel, and I must say that I have been extremely impressed with it. Outstanding accuracy (5 shot groups run around 1.5" at 100 yards with ammo that it likes...) and total reliability. I like that it uses readily available AR15 / M16 magazines. Ergonomics are outstanding, at least for me. I can field strip the rifle in about 10 seconds. It uses a gas piston system that keeps the action clean. One of the gentleman I know has one and he hasn't cleaned it in 6,000 rounds, just a little lube, and it still functions....

The only negative that I've found is the trigger pull. As the rifle comes from the factory the trigger pull is around 9-10 pounds. The factory trigger pack has a secondary redundant sear spring that many people simply remove (with no impact on functioning..) then the trigger pull drops to about 7 pounds and reasonable crisp. Certainly usable. I like good triggers and particularly two stage triggers, so I replaced my trigger pack (It takes about 30 seconds to remove and replace the trigger pack...) with a Geissele trigger pack that gives me a two stage excellent trigger with a pull of about 5 pounds. Expensive trigger but worth it to me on a rifle this accurate. One of my shooting friends who has extensive military experience and is a fantastic marksman said "This thing shoots like a laser.".

All in all, my Tavor would be my first choice for a rifle if my life depended on it, besides it is just a really fun rifle to shoot...

09-20-2015, 10:20 AM	#1
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Interested in two modern, any comments on them? Both are current production. Remington 1911R1 Stainless NIB, asking $700 IWI Tavor basic model NIB, asking $1700 Any range experience on them? Good, average, poor? Price too high or OK (not low for sure)...

09-20-2015, 11:38 AM	#2
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Alv Being also a 1911 aficionado I can say that I tested the Remington R1 right after it came on the market, as far as I can remember it worked fine, it had a nice trigger pull, a pretty good finishing. Since I belong to the "1911 old school" I did appreciate the efforts to produce such a classic 1911. Rgds Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

09-24-2015, 04:43 PM	#3
JD User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Western Washington Posts: 107 Thanks: 58 Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts	I have a Tavor with an 18" barrel, and I must say that I have been extremely impressed with it. Outstanding accuracy (5 shot groups run around 1.5" at 100 yards with ammo that it likes...) and total reliability. I like that it uses readily available AR15 / M16 magazines. Ergonomics are outstanding, at least for me. I can field strip the rifle in about 10 seconds. It uses a gas piston system that keeps the action clean. One of the gentleman I know has one and he hasn't cleaned it in 6,000 rounds, just a little lube, and it still functions.... The only negative that I've found is the trigger pull. As the rifle comes from the factory the trigger pull is around 9-10 pounds. The factory trigger pack has a secondary redundant sear spring that many people simply remove (with no impact on functioning..) then the trigger pull drops to about 7 pounds and reasonable crisp. Certainly usable. I like good triggers and particularly two stage triggers, so I replaced my trigger pack (It takes about 30 seconds to remove and replace the trigger pack...) with a Geissele trigger pack that gives me a two stage excellent trigger with a pull of about 5 pounds. Expensive trigger but worth it to me on a rifle this accurate. One of my shooting friends who has extensive military experience and is a fantastic marksman said "This thing shoots like a laser.". All in all, my Tavor would be my first choice for a rifle if my life depended on it, besides it is just a really fun rifle to shoot...