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hello, would appreciate opinions on this Reichswehr 1920 property stamped Police Luger .
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what value would you place on this Luger?
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1917 Erfurt with a gov't 1920 marking - went into police service and received a mag and sear safety - has been refinished at some point, would assume arsenal / so that would be expected...
I am assuming it has a matching magazine, and it looks like its in excellent condition. The magazine is aluminum, so is 1930's era likely. I would venture a $1400-1700 value More information, rather than just pictures would help all matching? holster or anything else? any unit markings? |
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i thought the mag was matching?!!?
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I changed what I wrote, as I assumed... but you don't show any pictures of the serial number, so its a guess that the '24' matches????
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The mag. may match from its rebirth as a police gun. It is not a matching mag from its original military conception.
A nice gun. Congratulations! dju |
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What I know about it retains 98% of its original anodized finish throughout and it shows only very modest handling wear. The pistol also features all matching serial numbers.
The pistol was arsenal re-finished/re-worked in 1920 where the barrel was shortened to its current length. The gun was originally unit-marked on the inside grip area, but these markings were X-ed out during the arsenal refurbishment and are now illegible. This weapon has a sear safety. I assume that the original mag was damaged and/or lost to time and that a replacement mag was inserted and serial-numbered at the time of the arsenal refurbishment to match the gun. Unfortunately no other accessories, holster, extra magazine. Just the pistol. Hope that helps ![]() |
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It´s a "parts- gun": Receiver is DWM, toggle Erfurt.
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Old information and not correct 1920 is not the arsenal remarking - see the FAQ to read about the 1920 gov't marking It would have been re marked whenever the unit changed or the gun went to a new police unit, could have been 1928 (or other date, sure not 1920). Was the barrel shortened? if frame was DWM, then yes |
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Ahh, thanks. Yes the barrel was shortened.
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Klaus is correct.
This is not an Erfurt pistol. It is not what we call a matching numbers gun. It is a mismatched re-blued almost complete DWM - with a partial Erfurt toggle. The fact that the toggle train has the same numbers on it as the rest of the gun means nothing. The frame, barrel/barrel extension, and all small parts are DWM. This gun has been reblued again more recently (after the Police refurb/reissue). Is there a SN stamped behind the rear sight? (there should be but I don't see one). The matching mag is a nice touch but adds little value to the gun because: 1. the gun is not a complete original. 2. mag has been ground down and renumbered, but probably not by the police. 3. police issue mag should have a 1, 2, or 3 stamped on bottom. $1100-$1200 is top value, as a nice mostly matching DWM shooter. Sorry Maestro, it's probably not what you wanted to hear. - Geo
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Geo, I would want to see more before I would declare it reblued after the police.
The sear safety pin is in the white. I would want to see under it to see if it is in the white on the underside? Not all police guns receive a 1, 2 or 3 - I agree I expect to see it. Do you see obvious regrinding on the base? I did not, but I am on my laptop. It does look odd, I would want to see pictures from the sides to see if reground and a real close up of the numbers.
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Geo not a problem, as I'm looking for advise from advanced collectors; I will try to get more pictures from the seller regards to your questions. I'm also learning quiet a bit from Edward Tinker and will see if i can get from seller a better picture of the underneath of the safety pin.
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Unless you are looking for a shooter, and the price is right, I would avoid this made up luger. Bill
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It looks like a recent refinish to me. Blue in the pitting. Some of the edges ground round. I wouldn't pay more than $1000
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When I looked at the photos I mentioned that the barrel has the TP (Technische Polizei) stamp and the acceptance mark of those years. It also has another "blue" than the rest of the Luger. I do not think that the pistol was reblued ever.
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