MP-40 advice sought

mystical_tutor · 10-09-2013, 05:39 PM

I want to sell my MP-40 shooter. The new magazine law in Colorado appears to complicate that a bit.

Do any of you have any recommendations on how I should go about advertising it for sale? I am assuming I will not be able to sell the magazines for it unless I physically go to a state that would allow it.

Is there any Federal law yet that would prohibit my selling those magazines by mail as long as it does not violate a state law?

Really do not want to violate any laws in all this as I value law and my freedom both.

Thanks in advance

Gary

OH, and in case it needs to be said, yes, it is all legally owned and properly stored (and a hell of a lot of fun to shoot).

lugerholsterrepair · 10-09-2013, 06:48 PM

Gary, I am interested. Shoot me an email and we can talk.

lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net

Jerry

DavidJayUden · 10-09-2013, 10:29 PM

Good Lord, I can't even imagine that the last panic law would halt the sale of magazines going out of CO. For real?
If you and Jerry don't get together on it I'll let you store it at my house...
dju

alanint · 10-10-2013, 07:27 AM

If Jerry does not take what you are offering. Top dollar can be had over at Subguns.com or Sturmgewehr.com

lugerholsterrepair · 10-10-2013, 10:31 AM

Well as long as "Top Dollar" can be had I will respectfully back away..Thanks anyway.

alanint · 10-10-2013, 10:45 AM

No offence, Jerry. I fully expected you to make your deal.

calibrator · 10-10-2013, 11:24 AM

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mystical_tutor · 10-10-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

Good Lord, I can't even imagine that the last panic law would halt the sale of magazines going out of CO. For real?
If you and Jerry don't get together on it I'll let you store it at my house...
dju

Actually, David, your comment does put a slight twist on what I read in the law but I'll read it again. It may say I can not transfer a HCM "in" Colorado -- i.e. from me, in CO to another person in CO. It may not prohibit me sending one someplace else but it also my not address that specifically so one would be up against a local interpretation.

They went so far as to talk about if I were to hand a HCM to you while we were both at the range, or to leave one with a gunsmith to be repaired, etc. Both of those were deemed to be acceptable if I expected to get it back. If you forget you have it and stick it in the trunk of your car and drive off, we are both up that well known tributary without the proper means of locomotion.

Gary

alanint · 10-10-2013, 03:39 PM

There is nothing preventing a shipment from CO. to a state where the magazine is allowed.

mystical_tutor · 10-10-2013, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by alanint

There is nothing preventing a shipment from CO. to a state where the magazine is allowed.

That would certainly meet the common sense test. However, the wording in the technical guidance only allows for "temporary transfer of a HCM". The interesting thing about that is that the way it is presently stated, there is no method of getting rid of it. There is not even a clause that allows you to turn it into a law enforcement agency. At least not in the technical guidance. I can not seem to find an actual on line copy of HB 13-1224.

rhuff · 10-11-2013, 04:32 PM

If I were in your shoes right now(thank God, I am not), and just saw how the two anti-gun politicians were removed from office by irate gun owners, I would send your mags to a friend out of state and wait and see. These crazy laws may get repealed with politicians now understanding the "people's desire" on this subject.....just a thought.

Acolyte · 10-16-2013, 10:47 PM

CO mag ban specifically permits transfers to out of state purchasers who may legally own high cap mags.

mystical_tutor · 10-20-2013, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Acolyte

CO mag ban specifically permits transfers to out of state purchasers who may legally own high cap mags.

Wow! that is what I want to see. Do you have a link to the actual bill? I know it has to be there somewhere but I have not been able to find it.

EDIT: I did find the online copy of the bill. I do not see any provision for sending a magazine out of state. I also see no prohibition to sending one either. When I talked to the Attorney Generals office they told me I would need to hire an attorney to give me advice on that subject.

I would assume it is permitted because the bill talks quite a bit about HCM that are manufactured in Colorado and it would be logical that if that is allowed and transfer in CO is illegal they must be able to send them out of state.

mystical_tutor · 10-20-2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rhuff

If I were in your shoes right now(thank God, I am not), and just saw how the two anti-gun politicians were removed from office by irate gun owners, I would send your mags to a friend out of state and wait and see. These crazy laws may get repealed with politicians now understanding the "people's desire" on this subject.....just a thought.

The folks are working hard on getting rid of the third person too. I don't live in her district so couldn't sign the petition.

If I sell the MP-40 out of state in a state that doesn't have a HCM law I think it will all be OK. If I sell it instate it looks like I'm on a knife edge and waiting till all the political dust settles may be a difficult option to take.

Thanks for your comment though.

Gary

10-09-2013, 05:39 PM	#1
mystical_tutor User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 230 Thanks: 32 Thanked 39 Times in 25 Posts	MP-40 advice sought I want to sell my MP-40 shooter. The new magazine law in Colorado appears to complicate that a bit. Do any of you have any recommendations on how I should go about advertising it for sale? I am assuming I will not be able to sell the magazines for it unless I physically go to a state that would allow it. Is there any Federal law yet that would prohibit my selling those magazines by mail as long as it does not violate a state law? Really do not want to violate any laws in all this as I value law and my freedom both. Thanks in advance Gary OH, and in case it needs to be said, yes, it is all legally owned and properly stored (and a hell of a lot of fun to shoot).

10-09-2013, 06:48 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,766 Thanks: 4,883 Thanked 3,121 Times in 1,432 Posts	Gary, I am interested. Shoot me an email and we can talk. lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net Jerry __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

10-10-2013, 10:31 AM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,766 Thanks: 4,883 Thanked 3,121 Times in 1,432 Posts	Well as long as "Top Dollar" can be had I will respectfully back away..Thanks anyway. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

10-09-2013, 10:29 PM	#3
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Good Lord, I can't even imagine that the last panic law would halt the sale of magazines going out of CO. For real? If you and Jerry don't get together on it I'll let you store it at my house... dju

10-10-2013, 07:27 AM	#4
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	If Jerry does not take what you are offering. Top dollar can be had over at Subguns.com or Sturmgewehr.com

10-10-2013, 10:45 AM	#6
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	No offence, Jerry. I fully expected you to make your deal.

10-10-2013, 11:24 AM	#7
calibrator User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cave Creek Posts: 315 Thanks: 55 Thanked 242 Times in 92 Posts	I posted my friend's 1928 Thompson on this site, and it was bought by a member for a fair price. The Big Sandy Shoot is the last weekend of this month. They are having their first under-tent Gun Show. Located just a little south of Kingman, Az. www.mgshooters.com

10-10-2013, 03:39 PM	#9
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	There is nothing preventing a shipment from CO. to a state where the magazine is allowed.

10-11-2013, 04:32 PM	#11
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,288 Thanks: 2,702 Thanked 971 Times in 716 Posts	If I were in your shoes right now(thank God, I am not), and just saw how the two anti-gun politicians were removed from office by irate gun owners, I would send your mags to a friend out of state and wait and see. These crazy laws may get repealed with politicians now understanding the "people's desire" on this subject.....just a thought.

10-16-2013, 10:47 PM	#12
Acolyte User Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	CO mag ban specifically permits transfers to out of state purchasers who may legally own high cap mags.