Another DWM gun - 1908 mauser

skeeter4206 · 09-24-2012, 09:03 PM

I recently was at a local gunshow and purchased a mauser that caught my attention. This was a 1908 brazillian mauser made by DWM in oberndorf germany. I have been trying to do a little research on this rifle and figured some of members on this forum are very knowledgable in german firearms. maybe some call give me a little feedback on the rifle.

As for the gun, all serail numbers match except the bolt. The bolt is actually made up of two different serial numbers. The bolts and the sfety mechanism. I have been curious about some of the markings on the gun. The brazillian crest appears to be in good shape. It also has on the front end of the barrel (7mm and Germany).

Ammo wise I have seen on line it uses a 7x57 mauser ammo. Is this a regular 7mm round that is commonly round fround or a certain round I need to seek.

I do appreciate any feedback on this rifle, as I am trying to fill my knowledge of this rifle and just show some other firearms of DWM.

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Patronen · 09-24-2012, 10:18 PM

7X57 should be pretty easy to find. It's still chambered in new rifles. The big sporting goods stores even carry it. Don't know about pricing these days on it. Sometimes you can still find surplus out there. Look into Privi-Partisan ammo. I think they are one of the cheaper game in town.
I used to have a Spanish 1916 short rifle in 7x57 and used to reload for it but sold everything off a few yrs ago.
Keep us posted on the range report.

skeeter4206 · 09-24-2012, 10:45 PM

The fellow I got it from said it was your everyday run of 7mm ammo, but I wanted to varify that. I recently shot a turkish mauser that was stamped 7.91 on the bottom with the turkish logo also stamped. Didn't really know if I needed something like this that was specially made for this gun.

I cant wait to shoot this rifle. It is heavy, so I assuming the kick on it shouldny be too bad. And with the long barrel should be pretty accurate, I hope.

Any ideas on the markings. As for the "B" with a circle around it on the reciever?

skeeter4206 · 09-24-2012, 10:48 PM

Just pulling the trigger on it seems pretty slick. It acts like a two stage trigger as what I would assume one feels like. You can pull it back till you feel tension, which is about a 1/4" it seems. Then as you pull into the tension it fires. Cant wait to see how that functions at the range.

sheepherder · 09-25-2012, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by skeeter4206

Any ideas on the markings. As for the "B" with a circle around it on the reciever?

Sounds like the same marking as on the Brazilian contract Lugers...

Douglas Jr. · 09-27-2012, 10:22 AM

This rifle was part of a huge purchase agreement made in 1908 by the Brazilian Army in Germany. According to some sources, the purchase was for 400,000 rifles, all of them chambered for the 7X57 caliber. The rifle is almost an exact copy of the Gewehr 1898, with the most obvious difference being the rear sight, which has a lower outline in the Brazilian version.

The guns were numbering in the German military style, in batches of 10,000 guns, followed by a cursive suffix (a, b, c ...) and, after running all the letters, by two suffixes (Aa, Bb, Cc ...). The letters Beta (Greek) and circled-B refer to the contract: Beta being the Brazilian Inspector's final Acceptance mark, and the B in Circle is a DWM Contract designator. All rifles from this contract were made by DWM and they stay in active duty for decades. Many were sold in the international surplus market still with the original grease.

It was at the same occasion that the Brazilian Army bought 5,000 Luger pistols (also marked with the circled-B, extractor "CARREGADA" and using its own serial number range) in what became known as the "Brazilian Contract" Luger.

Hope it helps.
Douglas

skeeter4206 · 10-01-2012, 02:27 AM

Interesting about the brazillian lugers. Do they also have the same crest as the top of this rifle has. Being made by DWM is cinda what turned my attention to it when I bought it. I have a 1900 AE that has the DWM stamp on it. I figured this rifle had to be of some quality being made by the germans in this era.

As for the serial number it is 3710 with the Nn stamped below it. Thanks for the info on this rifle. I still havent shot it yet, but I cant wait. Working 7 - 12's kinda leaves very little room for any shooting.

Douglas Jr. · 10-01-2012, 09:15 AM

Unfortunately, the Brazilian Lugers had no crest at all. Only the "circled-B" on the left side of the receiver and the extract marked "CARREGADA" ("Loaded").

Douglas

skeeter4206 · 10-02-2012, 12:08 AM

Thats too bad. The crest on the brazillian mauser looks pretty cool. That would awesome having them side by side with the same crest and made by DWM.

alanint · 10-02-2012, 07:24 AM

I have two Chilean Mausers of this quality. a 1896 and a model 1912. One is a Steyr and the other is a Ludwig Loewe.

They are not import marked and for sale, if anybody is interested.

09-24-2012, 09:03 PM	#1
skeeter4206 User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 448 Thanks: 52 Thanked 88 Times in 49 Posts	Another DWM gun - 1908 mauser I recently was at a local gunshow and purchased a mauser that caught my attention. This was a 1908 brazillian mauser made by DWM in oberndorf germany. I have been trying to do a little research on this rifle and figured some of members on this forum are very knowledgable in german firearms. maybe some call give me a little feedback on the rifle. As for the gun, all serail numbers match except the bolt. The bolt is actually made up of two different serial numbers. The bolts and the sfety mechanism. I have been curious about some of the markings on the gun. The brazillian crest appears to be in good shape. It also has on the front end of the barrel (7mm and Germany). Ammo wise I have seen on line it uses a 7x57 mauser ammo. Is this a regular 7mm round that is commonly round fround or a certain round I need to seek. I do appreciate any feedback on this rifle, as I am trying to fill my knowledge of this rifle and just show some other firearms of DWM.

09-24-2012, 10:18 PM	#2
Patronen User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 312 Thanks: 335 Thanked 93 Times in 70 Posts	7X57 should be pretty easy to find. It's still chambered in new rifles. The big sporting goods stores even carry it. Don't know about pricing these days on it. Sometimes you can still find surplus out there. Look into Privi-Partisan ammo. I think they are one of the cheaper game in town. I used to have a Spanish 1916 short rifle in 7x57 and used to reload for it but sold everything off a few yrs ago. Keep us posted on the range report. __________________ Dave

09-24-2012, 10:45 PM	#3
skeeter4206 User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 448 Thanks: 52 Thanked 88 Times in 49 Posts	The fellow I got it from said it was your everyday run of 7mm ammo, but I wanted to varify that. I recently shot a turkish mauser that was stamped 7.91 on the bottom with the turkish logo also stamped. Didn't really know if I needed something like this that was specially made for this gun. I cant wait to shoot this rifle. It is heavy, so I assuming the kick on it shouldny be too bad. And with the long barrel should be pretty accurate, I hope. Any ideas on the markings. As for the "B" with a circle around it on the reciever?

09-24-2012, 10:48 PM	#4
skeeter4206 User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 448 Thanks: 52 Thanked 88 Times in 49 Posts	Just pulling the trigger on it seems pretty slick. It acts like a two stage trigger as what I would assume one feels like. You can pull it back till you feel tension, which is about a 1/4" it seems. Then as you pull into the tension it fires. Cant wait to see how that functions at the range.

09-27-2012, 10:22 AM	#6
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	This rifle was part of a huge purchase agreement made in 1908 by the Brazilian Army in Germany. According to some sources, the purchase was for 400,000 rifles, all of them chambered for the 7X57 caliber. The rifle is almost an exact copy of the Gewehr 1898, with the most obvious difference being the rear sight, which has a lower outline in the Brazilian version. The guns were numbering in the German military style, in batches of 10,000 guns, followed by a cursive suffix (a, b, c ...) and, after running all the letters, by two suffixes (Aa, Bb, Cc ...). The letters Beta (Greek) and circled-B refer to the contract: Beta being the Brazilian Inspector's final Acceptance mark, and the B in Circle is a DWM Contract designator. All rifles from this contract were made by DWM and they stay in active duty for decades. Many were sold in the international surplus market still with the original grease. It was at the same occasion that the Brazilian Army bought 5,000 Luger pistols (also marked with the circled-B, extractor "CARREGADA" and using its own serial number range) in what became known as the "Brazilian Contract" Luger. Hope it helps. Douglas

10-01-2012, 02:27 AM	#7
skeeter4206 User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 448 Thanks: 52 Thanked 88 Times in 49 Posts	Interesting about the brazillian lugers. Do they also have the same crest as the top of this rifle has. Being made by DWM is cinda what turned my attention to it when I bought it. I have a 1900 AE that has the DWM stamp on it. I figured this rifle had to be of some quality being made by the germans in this era. As for the serial number it is 3710 with the Nn stamped below it. Thanks for the info on this rifle. I still havent shot it yet, but I cant wait. Working 7 - 12's kinda leaves very little room for any shooting.

10-01-2012, 09:15 AM	#8
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	Unfortunately, the Brazilian Lugers had no crest at all. Only the "circled-B" on the left side of the receiver and the extract marked "CARREGADA" ("Loaded"). Douglas

10-02-2012, 12:08 AM	#9
skeeter4206 User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 448 Thanks: 52 Thanked 88 Times in 49 Posts	Thats too bad. The crest on the brazillian mauser looks pretty cool. That would awesome having them side by side with the same crest and made by DWM.

10-02-2012, 07:24 AM	#10
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	I have two Chilean Mausers of this quality. a 1896 and a model 1912. One is a Steyr and the other is a Ludwig Loewe. They are not import marked and for sale, if anybody is interested.