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Orv Reichert · 02-21-2002, 10:30 PM

This is a .32 cal - 1922 FN - Nazi made - WaA140 stamps and E/S proofs. SN 144062.

Has anyone seen this type of lanyard loop before? It swivels up and down and is pinned thru the grip overhang. I have never seen another like it! [and, I would presume it is not an original Nazi modification]

Orv Reichert

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Doug · 02-22-2002, 12:56 AM

Orv, I looked through the book "The Belgian Browning Pistols" by Anthony Vanderlinden and found many pictures of the 1922. All that had lanyard loops had them installed at the bottom rear of the left side of the mag well. It was noted that many of these guns were reissued to police forces after the war. It is possible that this is when the loop was installed.

Orv Reichert · 02-22-2002, 03:50 AM

I had already checked my copy of Anthony's book...and have an email off to him, too. I will post whatever I find out.

Orv Reichert

Marvin · 02-22-2002, 08:36 AM

Hello Orv,

Whoever installed this lanyard look did a very nice job! I have never understood why anyone would want a lanyard on their pistol except mounted troops. I know the British always had them on thier pistols. Since lanyards were not in much use by the Germans, I wonder why they continued to have them on the Luger and P.38. There seems no logical reason to continue the extra step in adding them when they were not used that often. Please do keep us informed what you find out from Anthony on the 1922.

marvin

02-22-2002, 12:09 PM

Marvin, military and police are usually required to have a lanyard.

It isn't just for looks, if you are running through the woods after a bad guy, the last thing you want is for your pistol not to be there.

But, with full flap pistols, I don't believe that it will just fall out, but if the higher ups say you have to have a lanyard....

And Orv, that is unusual, I haven't seen anything like that before.

Ed

Orv Reichert · 02-22-2002, 02:25 PM

Anthony Vanderlinden said he had seen one, once, on a Jap FN 1910 but had no idea who put it there.

Tom Knox said:

I bet it is a post war French re-issue. I have three of the latter, although the lanyard is in a different location (left grip, lower rear corner). However, I do have a pair of post war French CZ27s with wire lanyards added in this same location

I had suspected French, too!

Orv Reichert

Marvin · 02-22-2002, 02:57 PM

66mustang,

I thought the Police would have the lanyard, but you rarely ever see photos of German soldiers wearing a lanyard and this is the reason I made that statement. Also, there was a thread several months ago about the German use of lanyards in the military. There were no issue lanyards that anyone was aware of and it was more of a personal taste if a lanyard was used by the soldier. Are you aware of any regulation concerning the use of a lanyard by the German military. This is interesting!

Marvin

02-22-2002, 05:44 PM

Boy, that is interesting Orv and Marvin. Of course my background is of newer armies, I know that the US Army had lanyards going way back, but can't tell you about German ones!

I would imagine that it depends on regulations and also on local rules.

ed

02-21-2002, 10:30 PM	#1
Orv Reichert RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SW Washington State Posts: 339 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	FN Question.... This is a .32 cal - 1922 FN - Nazi made - WaA140 stamps and E/S proofs. SN 144062. Has anyone seen this type of lanyard loop before? It swivels up and down and is pinned thru the grip overhang. I have never seen another like it! [and, I would presume it is not an original Nazi modification] Orv Reichert http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/1922-144062.jpg

02-22-2002, 12:56 AM	#2
Doug User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: USA Posts: 168 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: FN Question.... Orv, I looked through the book "The Belgian Browning Pistols" by Anthony Vanderlinden and found many pictures of the 1922. All that had lanyard loops had them installed at the bottom rear of the left side of the mag well. It was noted that many of these guns were reissued to police forces after the war. It is possible that this is when the loop was installed.

02-22-2002, 03:50 AM	#3
Orv Reichert RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SW Washington State Posts: 339 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Doug! I had already checked my copy of Anthony's book...and have an email off to him, too. I will post whatever I find out. Orv Reichert

02-22-2002, 08:36 AM	#4
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: FN Question.... Hello Orv, Whoever installed this lanyard look did a very nice job! I have never understood why anyone would want a lanyard on their pistol except mounted troops. I know the British always had them on thier pistols. Since lanyards were not in much use by the Germans, I wonder why they continued to have them on the Luger and P.38. There seems no logical reason to continue the extra step in adding them when they were not used that often. Please do keep us informed what you find out from Anthony on the 1922. marvin

02-22-2002, 12:09 PM	#5
66mustang Guest Posts: n/a	Re: FN Question.... Marvin, military and police are usually required to have a lanyard. It isn't just for looks, if you are running through the woods after a bad guy, the last thing you want is for your pistol not to be there. But, with full flap pistols, I don't believe that it will just fall out, but if the higher ups say you have to have a lanyard.... And Orv, that is unusual, I haven't seen anything like that before. Ed

02-22-2002, 02:25 PM	#6
Orv Reichert RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SW Washington State Posts: 339 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	lanyard loop. Anthony Vanderlinden said he had seen one, once, on a Jap FN 1910 but had no idea who put it there. Tom Knox said: I bet it is a post war French re-issue. I have three of the latter, although the lanyard is in a different location (left grip, lower rear corner). However, I do have a pair of post war French CZ27s with wire lanyards added in this same location I had suspected French, too! Orv Reichert

02-22-2002, 02:57 PM	#7
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: FN Question.... 66mustang, I thought the Police would have the lanyard, but you rarely ever see photos of German soldiers wearing a lanyard and this is the reason I made that statement. Also, there was a thread several months ago about the German use of lanyards in the military. There were no issue lanyards that anyone was aware of and it was more of a personal taste if a lanyard was used by the soldier. Are you aware of any regulation concerning the use of a lanyard by the German military. This is interesting! Marvin

02-22-2002, 05:44 PM	#8
66mustang Guest Posts: n/a	Re: lanyard loop. Boy, that is interesting Orv and Marvin. Of course my background is of newer armies, I know that the US Army had lanyards going way back, but can't tell you about German ones! I would imagine that it depends on regulations and also on local rules. ed