Problem with P08

7th_son · 01-27-2010, 01:27 PM

Hello! What i must do, when P08 bolt is locked in the middle and don't want to move to the forward and to the back? Barrel don't want move too. Any ideas?

7th_son · 01-27-2010, 01:50 PM

Thanks for quickly reply. I don't think so because, these parts removed:
-TRIGGER SIDEPLATE
-TRIGGER
-GRIPS
-LOCKING BOLT
-SEAR BAR WITH SPRING
-SAFETY BAR
-MAINSPRING & MAINSPRING GUIDE
-FIRING PIN WITH SPRING & SPRING RET.

7th_son · 01-27-2010, 02:38 PM

In this moment - no chance. I have suposse, that problem is ejector. Is it possible?

alanint · 01-27-2010, 05:04 PM

Not really. The bolt has a channel, which allows the ejector to pass through when the bolt cycles. There would have to be obstructions on either side of the ejector in the channel for it not to move in either direction. This is unlikely. A broken piece of the ejector may be possible. Does the ejector look complete from the side of the gun?

7th_son · 01-27-2010, 06:45 PM

On the side - yes. Tell me how remove this, maybe after removing, we will see the problem?

LugerVern · 01-27-2010, 08:02 PM

On this forum in the Technical Information there is a pictured
disassembly.

Have you tried going in through the grip area and depressing the hold open?

Vern

FNorm · 01-27-2010, 08:24 PM

Great Idea, Vern! I had to try that for myself. Yeah! Just go up and pull down on the tab that the mag button catches on. NEAT!

Hope that clears 7th's problem

FN

7th_son · 01-28-2010, 08:25 AM

Yes, I tried, but it didn't help.

alanint · 01-28-2010, 09:49 AM

Is the upper frame bent or damaged in any way? Will the upper frame come off the lower frame?
If the upper is not simply sliding off the lower with all the parts mentioned removed, it sounds as if one or the other of the frame components is damaged.

Lugerdoc · 01-28-2010, 10:13 AM

Sounds like a weak or missing HO spring to me also. With the toggle held open, you should be able to pull back on the toggle and push down on the HO from the top, to allow the breech block to clear it. TH

7th_son · 01-28-2010, 04:10 PM

Upper frame don't want to move. HO move, but hasn't spring.

LugerVern · 01-28-2010, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7th_son

Upper frame don't want to move. HO move, but hasn't spring.

So sounds like your hold open spring broke and has jammed the action.

Can you remove the rear toggle pin and then the rear toggle?
This might allow you to see what is causing the problem.

Vern

7th_son · 01-29-2010, 07:24 AM

Yes, i did it, but still don't know why upper frame don't move. I saw that, hold open isn't this problem.

alanint · 01-29-2010, 09:24 AM

Where are you located? maybe a forum member can examine your Luger for you.

Thor · 01-29-2010, 10:14 AM

He is in Poland

7th_son · 01-29-2010, 10:16 AM

I'm from Poland, so i suspect, that is someone in this forum, who life in Poland, too.

Lugerdoc · 01-29-2010, 11:52 AM

I'm sure that there are some good retired machinist in Poland that could solve your problem, or contact one of the Luger gunsmiths in Germany (on this Forum), to see about shipping your luger to him for repair. TH

7th_son · 01-29-2010, 05:10 PM

In Poland live 40 milions people, so here are some good gunsmiths. With shipping guns or "strategic" parts of gun (barrel, firing pin...) to other country from Poland, or from other country to Poland is big problem, because this is illegal here.

alanint · 01-29-2010, 05:15 PM

Illegal?

Shipping the gun in and out of the country or possessing the gun altogether?

7th_son · 01-29-2010, 06:34 PM

Generaly yes, but if you want, you must go office and is much paper work and they must not permint you. Polish law about weapon is stupid and strange. Here are term like "specially dangerous weapon" (sub-machine guns, assault rifles...) which you can't have for collector licence id as sniper rifles.

01-27-2010, 01:27 PM	#1
7th_son User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Problem with P08 Hello! What i must do, when P08 bolt is locked in the middle and don't want to move to the forward and to the back? Barrel don't want move too. Any ideas? Last edited by 7th_son; 01-27-2010 at 01:28 PM. Reason: mistake

01-27-2010, 01:50 PM	#2
7th_son User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for quickly reply. I don't think so because, these parts removed: -TRIGGER SIDEPLATE -TRIGGER -GRIPS -LOCKING BOLT -SEAR BAR WITH SPRING -SAFETY BAR -MAINSPRING & MAINSPRING GUIDE -FIRING PIN WITH SPRING & SPRING RET. Last edited by 7th_son; 01-27-2010 at 01:53 PM. Reason: sentence

01-28-2010, 08:25 AM	#8
7th_son User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes, I tried, but it didn't help. Last edited by 7th_son; 01-28-2010 at 08:30 AM. Reason: grammar mistake

01-28-2010, 10:13 AM	#10
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Sounds like a weak or missing HO spring to me also. With the toggle held open, you should be able to pull back on the toggle and push down on the HO from the top, to allow the breech block to clear it. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

01-29-2010, 10:14 AM	#15
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	He is in Poland __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

01-27-2010, 02:38 PM	#3
7th_son User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	In this moment - no chance. I have suposse, that problem is ejector. Is it possible?

01-27-2010, 05:04 PM	#4
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Not really. The bolt has a channel, which allows the ejector to pass through when the bolt cycles. There would have to be obstructions on either side of the ejector in the channel for it not to move in either direction. This is unlikely. A broken piece of the ejector may be possible. Does the ejector look complete from the side of the gun?

01-27-2010, 06:45 PM	#5
7th_son User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	On the side - yes. Tell me how remove this, maybe after removing, we will see the problem?

01-27-2010, 08:02 PM	#6
LugerVern User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 563 Thanks: 1 Thanked 34 Times in 27 Posts	On this forum in the Technical Information there is a pictured disassembly. Have you tried going in through the grip area and depressing the hold open? Vern

01-27-2010, 08:24 PM	#7
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	Great Idea, Vern! I had to try that for myself. Yeah! Just go up and pull down on the tab that the mag button catches on. NEAT! Hope that clears 7th's problem FN

01-28-2010, 09:49 AM	#9
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Is the upper frame bent or damaged in any way? Will the upper frame come off the lower frame? If the upper is not simply sliding off the lower with all the parts mentioned removed, it sounds as if one or the other of the frame components is damaged.

01-28-2010, 04:10 PM	#11
7th_son User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Upper frame don't want to move. HO move, but hasn't spring.

01-29-2010, 07:24 AM	#13
7th_son User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes, i did it, but still don't know why upper frame don't move. I saw that, hold open isn't this problem.

01-29-2010, 09:24 AM	#14
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Where are you located? maybe a forum member can examine your Luger for you.

01-29-2010, 10:16 AM	#16
7th_son User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm from Poland, so i suspect, that is someone in this forum, who life in Poland, too. Last edited by 7th_son; 01-29-2010 at 10:17 AM. Reason: poprawka

01-29-2010, 11:52 AM	#17
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	I'm sure that there are some good retired machinist in Poland that could solve your problem, or contact one of the Luger gunsmiths in Germany (on this Forum), to see about shipping your luger to him for repair. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

01-29-2010, 05:10 PM	#18
7th_son User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	In Poland live 40 milions people, so here are some good gunsmiths. With shipping guns or "strategic" parts of gun (barrel, firing pin...) to other country from Poland, or from other country to Poland is big problem, because this is illegal here.

01-29-2010, 05:15 PM	#19
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Illegal? Shipping the gun in and out of the country or possessing the gun altogether?

01-29-2010, 06:34 PM	#20
7th_son User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Generaly yes, but if you want, you must go office and is much paper work and they must not permint you. Polish law about weapon is stupid and strange. Here are term like "specially dangerous weapon" (sub-machine guns, assault rifles...) which you can't have for collector licence id as sniper rifles.