Brown Holsters

alanint · 06-12-2009, 12:54 PM

How late did brown holsters continue to be issued? Were they meant for special branches? Did all issues eventually go to black?

Trying to further my education........

Edward Tinker · 06-12-2009, 12:58 PM

See below

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Originally Posted by alanint

How late did brown holsters continue to be issued? UNKNOWN, BUT YOU SEE THEM UP TO ABOUT THIS DATE, AND SEEN THEM WITH EAGLE 2'S (KRIEGHOFF ACCEPTANCE MARKING ON THEM)
Were they meant for special branches? NO AND YES
IT IS COMMONLLY SAID THAT BROWN EQUALS LUFTWAFFE AND THAT BROWN POLICE HOLSTERS WERE MEANT FOR THE RURAL POLICE

Did all issues eventually go to black? Most holsters were black, but for those exceptions. Most ARMY holsters were black...

Trying to further my education........

George Anderson · 06-12-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by alanint

How late did brown holsters continue to be issued? Were they meant for special branches? Did all issues eventually go to black?

Trying to further my education........

I've had brown military issued holsters like this dated 1941 and 1942. I think that there was no rigid requirement for one unit or the other to have black or brown holsters. Enlisted equipment is almost always black i.e. Mauser ammo pouches and equipment belts. It could have had more to do with rank or duties. They also run the gamut from light brown like this through many shades of darker brown to black.

snipershot1944 · 06-12-2009, 10:18 PM

Nice holster Geo. I have heard that most issue holsters for the Army were black, and brown for the Luftwaffe. And officers for both services had to buy their own holsters, belts, sidearms. Many chose brown, based on color photos from the period.

Tepo911 · 06-13-2009, 07:18 PM

I'm not really a luger holster expert by any means, but this one is definitely a shade of bergundy inside and out. Not a die job.

Tepo911 · 06-13-2009, 07:21 PM

Strap stitches on this one need a little of Jerry's magic, but otherwise, pretty nice.

G.T. · 06-13-2009, 08:06 PM

That holster would look great with one of the reddish receivers that occured on some 1939 P.08's... don't'cha'think! Best to all, til....lat'r....GT

lugerholsterrepair · 06-13-2009, 08:08 PM

Steve, The Germans had some amazing dye colors and Burgandy/Cordovan was one of them. Very nice holster!

Jerry Burney

Tepo911 · 06-13-2009, 08:10 PM

Thanks Jerry,
I'll be sending it off to you one of these days.
Steve

lugerholsterrepair · 06-13-2009, 08:28 PM

Steve, I am knee deep in holsters! My main thing is repairs but I am trying to make a couple of Imperial Navy 7" holsters and 3 or 4 Carbine cases in my spare time. These things take an incredible amount of time to do....
15 years ago I thought ..how many Luger holsters that need repair can there be? Apparently the supply is unlimited.
I can't wait to get to work each and every morning....

Jerry Burney

Tepo911 · 06-13-2009, 09:49 PM

Jerry,
Does that mean you are not accepting more work? Please don't say that. No one else does what you do...at least not as well,in my opinion.
Steve

lugerholsterrepair · 06-14-2009, 11:40 AM

Steve..No, I am currently accepting holsters. I had to shut it off several years ago but that was due to a small medical procedure that disabled me for some months.

Up and running.

Thanks, Jerry Burney

George Anderson · 06-14-2009, 02:43 PM

Here are some photos of a 1939 dated cordovan holster I recently picked up.

lugerholsterrepair · 06-14-2009, 03:10 PM

Sweet! Cordovan holsters fall into that WHAT? catagory..not black, not brown now who the heck used them according to color? It just prooves there were some loosening of protocol when it came to leather equiptment color.
Since most branches of the German Armed Forces had their own mandates there is apparently no hard & fast rule about color. I suspect there was also a leniency for Officers that Enlisted Soldiers were not allowed.
That being said...we have the fine example shown above of George's cordovan/burgandy holster. It is in an Army configuration, WaA marked as Military accepted in 1939. This MUST have been an accepted color for general issue at this time. It is NOT an Officer private purchase holster.
Does anyone out there have a cordovan holster dated 1940 or later? I know there are plenty of tan ones...

Jerry Burney

06-12-2009, 12:54 PM	#1
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Brown Holsters How late did brown holsters continue to be issued? Were they meant for special branches? Did all issues eventually go to black? Trying to further my education........

06-13-2009, 07:18 PM	#5
Tepo911 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	color I'm not really a luger holster expert by any means, but this one is definitely a shade of bergundy inside and out. Not a die job. Attached Thumbnails

06-13-2009, 08:06 PM	#7
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	looks neat! That holster would look great with one of the reddish receivers that occured on some 1939 P.08's... don't'cha'think! Best to all, til....lat'r....GT

06-13-2009, 08:08 PM	#8
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Steve, The Germans had some amazing dye colors and Burgandy/Cordovan was one of them. Very nice holster! Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-13-2009, 08:28 PM	#10
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Steve, I am knee deep in holsters! My main thing is repairs but I am trying to make a couple of Imperial Navy 7" holsters and 3 or 4 Carbine cases in my spare time. These things take an incredible amount of time to do.... 15 years ago I thought ..how many Luger holsters that need repair can there be? Apparently the supply is unlimited. I can't wait to get to work each and every morning.... Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-12-2009, 10:18 PM	#4
snipershot1944 User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia, part of the occupied Confederacy Posts: 300 Thanks: 15 Thanked 33 Times in 24 Posts	Nice holster Geo. I have heard that most issue holsters for the Army were black, and brown for the Luftwaffe. And officers for both services had to buy their own holsters, belts, sidearms. Many chose brown, based on color photos from the period.

06-13-2009, 07:21 PM	#6
Tepo911 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Strap stitches on this one need a little of Jerry's magic, but otherwise, pretty nice.

06-13-2009, 08:10 PM	#9
Tepo911 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks Jerry, I'll be sending it off to you one of these days. Steve

06-13-2009, 09:49 PM	#11
Tepo911 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Repairs Jerry, Does that mean you are not accepting more work? Please don't say that. No one else does what you do...at least not as well,in my opinion. Steve

06-14-2009, 11:40 AM	#12
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Steve..No, I am currently accepting holsters. I had to shut it off several years ago but that was due to a small medical procedure that disabled me for some months. Up and running. Thanks, Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-14-2009, 02:43 PM	#13
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	Here are some photos of a 1939 dated cordovan holster I recently picked up. Attached Thumbnails

06-14-2009, 03:10 PM	#14
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Sweet! Cordovan holsters fall into that WHAT? catagory..not black, not brown now who the heck used them according to color? It just prooves there were some loosening of protocol when it came to leather equiptment color. Since most branches of the German Armed Forces had their own mandates there is apparently no hard & fast rule about color. I suspect there was also a leniency for Officers that Enlisted Soldiers were not allowed. That being said...we have the fine example shown above of George's cordovan/burgandy holster. It is in an Army configuration, WaA marked as Military accepted in 1939. This MUST have been an accepted color for general issue at this time. It is NOT an Officer private purchase holster. Does anyone out there have a cordovan holster dated 1940 or later? I know there are plenty of tan ones... Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."