Serious company?

[flecktarn]

Hi !

I just wonder if anyone else has some info. about this company: http://www.lugerman.com/

I ordered 2 main spring guides for my P08 at this date: 04/09/2008, and money was taken from my account as well.

I have not seen any stuff and my e-mails are not answered. I have called 5-10 times and no one lifts the phone.

So...any ideas what might be wrong?

Regards

[Steinar]

I have no experience with this guy.. but this might be interesting for you;
http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...light=Lugerman

[Brickie]

Do you have a name or address? Nothing on his web site which is not a good sign.

[Lugerdoc]

FT, I have the parts you need, if "lugerman" doesn't come thru. Lugerdoc

[George Anderson]

Flecktarn, "lugerman" is Yevgeniy (Eugene) Golubtsov. I met him at the Chantilly Gun Show a couple of years ago and have bought parts from in the past. My experiance has been that he is well intentioned and and the quality of his work seems to be improving. I have his address, email and phone number. If you will contact me off line I will give you what contact information I have.

[JonWalther]

I sent him some parts on 3/07/08 to be worked on. He sent me an email on 4/14/08 saying the parts were ready and would be on there way shortly. I sent him an email asking if he had shipped them on 4/23/08 and he replied that he had been out of town and that when he got back he would ship them and that I would see them early next week, which would have been 4/28-4/30. I came home today (5/1) and they are still not here. I sent him another email last night asking when he would ship them, but have not received a reply. I'm usually pretty patient, but I'm starting to lose my cool. I hope they look good when I get them, if I ever do. Also one other thing, if you call the phone number on his website he never answers it always goes to voice mail and I've left multiple messages and he has never called me back. I don't know what the deal is.

[flecktarn]

Originally posted by Lugerdoc
FT, I have the parts you need, if "lugerman" doesn't come thru. Lugerdoc

Thanks... I might get back to you. Bye the way, how much for a main spring guide?

The company is not worth to deal with in the future. After what I have read I will not buy from him !!! I wonder what he have done with my money? Perhaps a good dinner or flowers to his wife

[flecktarn]

Hi folks !!!

I have still not heard from that mr Lugerman. Have called several times, no answer.

Anyone here who might have any news about him?

Best regards

[blayne]

perhaps someone should mention to him that a HUGE market of his might be affected by these postings of his lack of salesmanship.... There are a lot of folks who read and pass along information like this to each other, esp of bad dealings...

[MFC]

He has a couple Lugers on Gunbroker right now. Try to reach him through one of his auctions.
Mike C.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=102992040

[laoshi75]

I cannot suffer this kind of guys who never answer emails, letters or phone calls. Communication is very important, it is also a part of honesty and credibility. It is true for private relationship, it is much more true for business relationship. Personnally I would cancel and avoid all kind of business with this so called lugerman who does not respect his customers.
Our Lugerdoc (Tom Heller) is totally reliable.

[John Sabato]

You might try this person... can't be many by that last name. Same TOWN, and likely the Eastern European or Russian form of EUGENE.

This info was from a reverse number search on Whitepages.com

========The website phone is reportedly a cell phone------------
(215) 805-1704
Type: Cell Phone
Provider: Verizon Wireless
Location: Philadelphia, PA

========Whitepages.com Last Name Search Information-------------
Yevgeniy V Golubtsov
home

501 Drexel Rd
Fairless Hills, PA 19030-3607
(215) 269-2792

Good Luck on cancelling your order.

[Lugerdoc]

FT, PM sent today. Lugerdoc

[flecktarn]

First of all...THANKS FOR ALL HELP !!!



Ok, I have sent him a questions through gun-broker to see if he answer, here it is:





A message has been sent to you by a user of GunBroker.com, please scroll
down to the MESSAGE FROM USER section below to read the text.
THE "FROM" NAME ON THIS EMAIL IS THE SENDING USER'S GUNBROKER.COM USERNAME.
REGARDING ITEM: 102992040 Mauser Luger matching 9mm S/42 1939 not DWM
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=102992040

--- begin message ---

The following is a copy of a message you sent to another user. You
requested a copy to be sent to yourself as well.
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Hi !

Do you have any more stuff of interest to sale?

Regards

--- end message ---

[flecktarn]

He answered directly about the auction he had and wrote that he had another gun to sell. I did send him this:



"" Hi !

I�´m glad that you answered my question within only minutes. I have tried to
call you at least 15 times, e-mailed...no answer. I want to see some
action now or this is going to be public more then it is right now !!!
Perhaps you can tell me why you have taken my money and not sent this stuff
/ order?: "":


To be continued...

[flecktarn]

And I got this within 2 minutes:


"
I have send all my orders two weeks ago.
I will double check if your was sent,
If it was not , I will ship it out on monday. "


Well... I have left him messages on the answer machine to...and the order is from: 04/09/2008. His last message also said that the spam filter might have taken the e-mails. Well the cell phone does�´t

To be...

[flecktarn]

My last post about this issue. That company is nothing to to affairs with. He told me that he has shipped the stuff and nothing has arrived. I gave him a chance to refund the money to a friend of mine in the states - but he are not interested.

So be warned folks : DON�´T BUY ANYTHING FROM LUGER MAN !!!

/Fleck...

[the gunman]

"Stick with Tom ( Luger Doc ) The best there is . Most honest dependable man truly old school. You will never go wrong with ANY order from this gentleman.

[wlyon]

I agree. Dealing with Tom is like it used to be. Very pleasant. Bill