M1906 - No Serials...

Pete Ebbink · 01-20-2006, 09:45 PM

Member Steve Anderson pointed this one out to me...a M1906 commercial with no serials...what do you folks think...?

http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976678198.htm

Edward Tinker · 01-20-2006, 10:10 PM

Thr front of the frame is awfully nice compared to the picture above it that has some slight dings and such. Very smooth and pretty and then below, look at the trigger guard...

I would say it has been smoothed off, no reason to do so?

Ed

Dwight Gruber · 01-21-2006, 04:44 AM

If you do some photo manipulation you will find the barrel has a serial number. It also appears to have c/BUG proofs; the reciever proof lookl like a lazy c/N (but it is -really- hard to tell). I contacted the seller for some information a few days ago, haven't heard back yet.

--Dwight

drbuster · 01-21-2006, 11:21 AM

Interesting piece! It has a long frame, "Germany" marked. I presume the chamber top is unmarked. It would seem to be an early 1906 frame, destined for the American market (AE) but never made it that way. One's thinking would lean towards a "lunch box" luger, how else would the serial numbers have been avoided. It does not appear that they have been ground off. I will watch for further photos or information.

jamese · 01-22-2006, 06:15 AM

I sent the guy an e-mail also when it was first listed, haven't heard any back

drbuster · 01-22-2006, 09:27 AM

By the way, $1025 is a good price for a 1906 such as this but how is the buyer going to get it registered without a serial number? I believe that only antiques made before 1898 could be sold sans serials.

pipeman45 · 01-22-2006, 04:36 PM

I don't think serial numbers were requried in this country until much later than 1898. The problem is it's a BIG no-no to remove one. If it was a lunch box special,how would you ever prove that it never had a number? I don't think you could.

hqbmw · 01-24-2006, 05:20 PM

Many American made arms had no S/N even into the 50's, so registration (where you have to do so) shouldn't be a problem. One of the benefits of
Arizona living is the freedoms to own most firearms without government interference.

Jack Hiles
Mesa AZ

Dwight Gruber · 01-24-2006, 06:08 PM

What about registering in one's Bound Book?

--Dwight

Mike Jones · 01-24-2006, 06:28 PM

Dwight,

S/N would be listed as None in your Bound Book.

Regards,
Mike Jones

John Sabato · 01-24-2006, 06:29 PM

Thanks for the input Mike... Good to hear from you after so long...

01-20-2006, 09:45 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	M1906 - No Serials... Member Steve Anderson pointed this one out to me...a M1906 commercial with no serials...what do you folks think...? http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976678198.htm

01-20-2006, 10:10 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	Thr front of the frame is awfully nice compared to the picture above it that has some slight dings and such. Very smooth and pretty and then below, look at the trigger guard... I would say it has been smoothed off, no reason to do so? Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-22-2006, 06:15 AM	#5
jamese User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 792 Thanks: 0 Thanked 86 Times in 36 Posts	I sent the guy an e-mail also when it was first listed, haven't heard any back __________________ The "truth" is a matter of Perception

01-22-2006, 04:36 PM	#7
pipeman45 User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I don't think serial numbers were requried in this country until much later than 1898. The problem is it's a BIG no-no to remove one. If it was a lunch box special,how would you ever prove that it never had a number? I don't think you could. __________________ Dave

01-24-2006, 05:20 PM	#8
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Many American made arms had no S/N even into the 50's, so registration (where you have to do so) shouldn't be a problem. One of the benefits of Arizona living is the freedoms to own most firearms without government interference. Jack Hiles Mesa AZ __________________ Jack Hiles Mesa AZ

01-21-2006, 04:44 AM	#3
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	If you do some photo manipulation you will find the barrel has a serial number. It also appears to have c/BUG proofs; the reciever proof lookl like a lazy c/N (but it is -really- hard to tell). I contacted the seller for some information a few days ago, haven't heard back yet. --Dwight

01-21-2006, 11:21 AM	#4
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Interesting piece! It has a long frame, "Germany" marked. I presume the chamber top is unmarked. It would seem to be an early 1906 frame, destined for the American market (AE) but never made it that way. One's thinking would lean towards a "lunch box" luger, how else would the serial numbers have been avoided. It does not appear that they have been ground off. I will watch for further photos or information.

01-22-2006, 09:27 AM	#6
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	By the way, $1025 is a good price for a 1906 such as this but how is the buyer going to get it registered without a serial number? I believe that only antiques made before 1898 could be sold sans serials.

01-24-2006, 06:08 PM	#9
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	What about registering in one's Bound Book? --Dwight

01-24-2006, 06:28 PM	#10
Mike Jones User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Torrance, Calif. Posts: 67 Thanks: 10 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Dwight, S/N would be listed as None in your Bound Book. Regards, Mike Jones

01-24-2006, 06:29 PM	#11
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Thanks for the input Mike... Good to hear from you after so long... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*