cdg 4

lew1 · 02-25-2004, 08:31 AM

I see an interesting holster over on ebay that is marked cdg4.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...EBWA%3AIT&rd=1

I have seen or seen pictures of two of these before.

One is in Benders' book and, from what I can tell from the photogrtaphs, it does not appear to be marked with a WaA marking or with 'P08'.

The other was at the SE NAPCA meeting last fall, and it ws marked WaA101 and also was marked with "P08". Both of thse markings were fairly obvious.

Both types are legit?

Lugerdoc · 02-25-2004, 08:38 AM

CPW, Luger holsters are generally only marked "PO8" if produced after 1940. TH

lew1 · 03-02-2004, 08:01 AM

I noticed this morning that the holster sold for $760.

Pete Ebbink · 03-02-2004, 05:58 PM

Is there any documentation to substantiate what the seller posted about this holster and its connection to 1944 HK lugers ?

" There is a high probability that these holsters were issued with 44 dated Kreighoffs. "

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

G.T. · 03-02-2004, 06:09 PM

Hi Pete.... A lot of speculation has followed all the different Luger accessiories... but I believe you can file "high probability" along with these other famious quips! "as far as I know" and "to the best of my knowledge!" These two are generally used just prior to closing the deal! Without documentation...it is all...you know... Til...lat'r....GT <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" />

Edward Tinker · 03-02-2004, 08:58 PM

As far as I know, this is reasonably accurate information, although I am no expert in this filed, and could possibly be wrong, but to the best of my ability and the best of my knowledge, blah, blah...

How's that sound for my next e-bay item I sell G.T.???

Ed

G.T. · 03-02-2004, 09:22 PM

You got it Ed! Only one your missing is: "Extra special minty!"

Best to you! til...lat'r....GT

Pete Ebbink · 03-03-2004, 11:42 AM

Here is a nice reply I received from the holster seller :

" I personally have never found any concrete evidence to support my opinion. However, in discussing this over the years with many of my collector friends we all seem to feel that it highly possible that 44 dated holsters were for the Kreighoff pistols. It is a reasonable conjecture in that no lugers other than kreighoffs were being manufactured at that time. However, it is possible that they were for the 42 BYF's that were being assembled from existing store. Like so much of what we often arrive at..it is generally someones opinion. One thing that is a fact ...the 44 dated or un-dated Luger holsters are very rare. "

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

G.T. · 03-03-2004, 12:01 PM

He's certainly right about the rare part! best to all! til...lat'r....GT

02-25-2004, 08:31 AM	#1
lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	cdg 4 I see an interesting holster over on ebay that is marked cdg4. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...EBWA%3AIT&rd=1 I have seen or seen pictures of two of these before. One is in Benders' book and, from what I can tell from the photogrtaphs, it does not appear to be marked with a WaA marking or with 'P08'. The other was at the SE NAPCA meeting last fall, and it ws marked WaA101 and also was marked with "P08". Both of thse markings were fairly obvious. Both types are legit? __________________ charlie

02-25-2004, 08:38 AM	#2
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	CPW, Luger holsters are generally only marked "PO8" if produced after 1940. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

03-02-2004, 08:01 AM	#3
lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	I noticed this morning that the holster sold for $760. __________________ charlie

03-02-2004, 08:58 PM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	As far as I know, this is reasonably accurate information, although I am no expert in this filed, and could possibly be wrong, but to the best of my ability and the best of my knowledge, blah, blah... How's that sound for my next e-bay item I sell G.T.??? Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

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03-02-2004, 05:58 PM	#4
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Is there any documentation to substantiate what the seller posted about this holster and its connection to 1944 HK lugers ? " There is a high probability that these holsters were issued with 44 dated Kreighoffs. " Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

03-02-2004, 06:09 PM	#5
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	Hi Pete.... A lot of speculation has followed all the different Luger accessiories... but I believe you can file "high probability" along with these other famious quips! "as far as I know" and "to the best of my knowledge!" These two are generally used just prior to closing the deal! Without documentation...it is all...you know... Til...lat'r....GT <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" />

03-02-2004, 09:22 PM	#7
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	You got it Ed! Only one your missing is: "Extra special minty!" Best to you! til...lat'r....GT

03-03-2004, 11:42 AM	#8
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Here is a nice reply I received from the holster seller : " I personally have never found any concrete evidence to support my opinion. However, in discussing this over the years with many of my collector friends we all seem to feel that it highly possible that 44 dated holsters were for the Kreighoff pistols. It is a reasonable conjecture in that no lugers other than kreighoffs were being manufactured at that time. However, it is possible that they were for the 42 BYF's that were being assembled from existing store. Like so much of what we often arrive at..it is generally someones opinion. One thing that is a fact ...the 44 dated or un-dated Luger holsters are very rare. " Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

03-03-2004, 12:01 PM	#9
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	He's certainly right about the rare part! best to all! til...lat'r....GT