Latest "re-build" project - A 1906 type frame based shooter

DonVoigt · 11-27-2016, 11:50 AM

I recently acquired a batch of "parts" included were three frames and an upper, and a few other parts.

Not being able to leave parts "un-assembled"; I had to build the frame into a shootable luger.

The 1906 type frame uses a grip safety, thus requiring different parts from a P 08 re-build.

Thanks to a friend, I was able to get a repaired grip safety and fit it, which was the "key" piece needed. Of course the left grip is special also, being cut out for the grip safety.

I decided to build the '06 in 9mm rather than the usually encountered 7,65mm. I really wanted a 9mm "fat barrel" but so far have not been able to find one. I've researched the frame and as best I can discern it is from the Brazilian(Thanks Ron) contract; could be wrong - but with the features and a serial number of 183 it was the only combination that fit. The frame and saftey are in the original "Up safe" configuration.

Test fired last week, just fine; but I still need a hold open to complete the build.

Frame was "in the white" and bead blasted to begin with; as you can see in the earlier pictures. Later I blued it as you can see.

Curss · 11-27-2016, 12:44 PM

Doesn't look too bad with a blued upper and frame still in the white. Great work, always happy to see another Luger brought back.

Edward Tinker · 11-27-2016, 01:18 PM

Really good work Don

Do you do real bluing? If so, I should ask that the 'baby' look the same and send you an upper

Ed

DonVoigt · 11-27-2016, 02:10 PM

Ed,
It is not "real" bluing; but Van's Blue- best instant or cold blue I've found.
Sometimes one can't tell the difference.

But it is real "strawing"!

Ron Wood · 11-27-2016, 07:08 PM

Don,
A Bolivian contract Luger is a 1908 pattern without grip safety. The frame is probably Brazilian.

Eugen · 11-27-2016, 10:13 PM

Don, very nice work on that project. Thanks for the photos.

DonVoigt · 11-28-2016, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

Don,
A Bolivian contract Luger is a 1908 pattern without grip safety. The frame is probably Brazilian.

Thanks Ron, of course you are correct, mind bubble on my part.

B is not always B.

The Brazilian contract fits the 3 digit serial number of the frame and other characteristics; Bolivia is an error.

lugerholsterrepair · 11-28-2016, 11:53 AM

Don, Very nice..the barrel looks a little different to me? Something ..?

kurusu · 11-28-2016, 03:50 PM

Well, Don, you kind of recreated a Portuguese Navy contract(1906 frame 9mm 4" barrel). Now you only need to fake, either the "Crown & Anchor" or the "R.P. & Anchor, both being scarce varieties.

DonVoigt · 11-28-2016, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

Don, Very nice..the barrel looks a little different to me? Something ..?

Good eye Jerry, the bbl is a commercial or aftermarket or something, not original luger; the diameter and curve to the flange is noticeably different.

Kurusu,
adding markings is a "no-no" in my book = fake.

But you are correct, pretty much a Portuguese style.

kurusu · 11-28-2016, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Kurusu,
adding markings is a "no-no" in my book = fake.

You know I was joking, right?

DonVoigt · 11-28-2016, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurusu

You know I was joking, right?

I knew You were joking, no offense intended;

but some folks seem to think it is ok.

Douglas Jr. · 12-09-2016, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

Don,
A Bolivian contract Luger is a 1908 pattern without grip safety. The frame is probably Brazilian.

Or a Portuguese M2, maybe?
Nice project!

Ron Wood · 12-09-2016, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Douglas Jr.

Or a Portuguese M2, maybe?
Nice project!

Yes, the M2 is also a good possibility. I had South America stuck in my head and didn't consider Portugal

Eugen · 12-09-2016, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

I had South America stuck in my head and didn't consider Portugal

Ron, no problem. (joking here) I hate it when that happens to me.

In my quest to improve my Luger knowledge, I continue to don't know what I don't. But, I am learning.

DonVoigt · 12-09-2016, 09:16 AM

Thanks guys,
I'm sure it is which ever one is more valuable!

Perhaps some day I'll "find" a Portuguese or Brazilian receiver; then we will know for sure.

kurusu · 12-09-2016, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

Yes, the M2 is also a good possibility. I had South America stuck in my head and didn't consider Portugal

Considering the low number, could even be a Portuguese Navy frame (it would have to be from a crown & anchor).

11-27-2016, 11:50 AM	#1
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,356 Times in 2,041 Posts	Latest "re-build" project - A 1906 type frame based shooter I recently acquired a batch of "parts" included were three frames and an upper, and a few other parts. Not being able to leave parts "un-assembled"; I had to build the frame into a shootable luger. The 1906 type frame uses a grip safety, thus requiring different parts from a P 08 re-build. Thanks to a friend, I was able to get a repaired grip safety and fit it, which was the "key" piece needed. Of course the left grip is special also, being cut out for the grip safety. I decided to build the '06 in 9mm rather than the usually encountered 7,65mm. I really wanted a 9mm "fat barrel" but so far have not been able to find one. I've researched the frame and as best I can discern it is from the Brazilian(Thanks Ron) contract; could be wrong - but with the features and a serial number of 183 it was the only combination that fit. The frame and saftey are in the original "Up safe" configuration. Test fired last week, just fine; but I still need a hold open to complete the build. Frame was "in the white" and bead blasted to begin with; as you can see in the earlier pictures. Later I blued it as you can see. Attached Thumbnails __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie Last edited by DonVoigt; 11-28-2016 at 08:50 AM.

11-27-2016, 12:44 PM	#2
Curss User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 307 Thanks: 304 Thanked 98 Times in 75 Posts	Doesn't look too bad with a blued upper and frame still in the white. Great work, always happy to see another Luger brought back. __________________ -Chris

11-27-2016, 02:10 PM	#4
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,356 Times in 2,041 Posts	Ed, It is not "real" bluing; but Van's Blue- best instant or cold blue I've found. Sometimes one can't tell the difference. But it is real "strawing"! __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

11-27-2016, 07:08 PM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,043 Thanks: 1,107 Thanked 5,261 Times in 1,724 Posts	Don, A Bolivian contract Luger is a 1908 pattern without grip safety. The frame is probably Brazilian. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

11-27-2016, 10:13 PM	#6
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 797 Thanks: 403 Thanked 640 Times in 339 Posts	Don, very nice work on that project. Thanks for the photos. __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

11-27-2016, 01:18 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,968 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,601 Times in 2,120 Posts	Really good work Don Do you do real bluing? If so, I should ask that the 'baby' look the same and send you an upper Ed

11-28-2016, 11:53 AM	#8
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Don, Very nice..the barrel looks a little different to me? Something ..? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-28-2016, 03:50 PM	#9
kurusu User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 2,679 Thanked 930 Times in 509 Posts	Well, Don, you kind of recreated a Portuguese Navy contract(1906 frame 9mm 4" barrel). Now you only need to fake, either the "Crown & Anchor" or the "R.P. & Anchor, both being scarce varieties.

12-09-2016, 09:16 AM	#16
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,356 Times in 2,041 Posts	Thanks guys, I'm sure it is which ever one is more valuable! Perhaps some day I'll "find" a Portuguese or Brazilian receiver; then we will know for sure. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

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