First Luger Buy "almost" completed - but concerns - Page 2

Jon N · 03-25-2016, 04:18 PM

Thanks JTD.... I really appreciate the caution from experienced traders, since I am just a newbie to military weapons in general.
Desperado really hit the nail on the head. When I read my own words, I saw red flags everywhere in that post.
Actually, I have been working on my friend to get it for about 20 years now and he finally relented. But he had strong sentimental attachment to it because he and his father in law were good friends.

Figured out what the odd looking tool is... I'm told it is an M1 Garand tool. Hope someone can educate me on holster dates? Did the date on the original holster always match the date on the gun? Or could this be the original holster that was a leftover from the prior year (1939) when it was manufactured (1940)?

Don't know how to contact individuals on the Forum directly or if that is possible. Wanted to let Ed Tinker know I am also in Pennsylvania and I have some other WWII stuff laying around that I may consider selling if it has any value.

ithacaartist · 03-25-2016, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon N

Don't know how to contact individuals on the Forum directly or if that is possible. Wanted to let Ed Tinker know I am also in Pennsylvania and I have some other WWII stuff laying around that I may consider selling if it has any value.

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lugerholsterrepair · 03-25-2016, 04:42 PM

Jon, No..holsters were issued in clothing depots..not to date but to type. A Luger holster is a Luger holster. Only collectors care about matching dates.

Desperado · 03-26-2016, 11:47 AM

I was gonna reply that your mystery tool sounded like an M1 Garand chamber brush, but someone obviously beat me to it.

For what its worth, it probably came with your Luger because the chamber tool is for 30 cal which is close enough to 9mm that the tool would probably work to clean the chamber.

My apologies to your long time friend. My comments were based upon what we were told. Knowing the guy for 30 years and trying to get the pistol for most of that time does change the picture a tad. That's a great price incidentally unless the pistol is a total rust bucket, which it isn't or you wouldn't be interested in it in the first place.

I wouldn't be worried about it being "hot" if you know where its been for the last 30 years and you know the guy you are buying from, but if you are really concerned, I'll do the honorable thing because my comments were part of the problem here and give you $600 for it sight unseen.

How's that for a deal to make things right? $50 profit and no worries about ownership.

(I'm kidding you, of course. Sounds like you have a great new Luger. Enjoy

Olle · 03-26-2016, 12:01 PM

$550? With a holster and loading tool? Sounds like you're the one stealing it!

Jon N · 03-26-2016, 12:13 PM

No offense taken, Desperado. I am grateful to have all the input.

Good one one the "generous" offer. Im thinking it is worth in the area of $1,000 to $1,200 but only based on my brief cruising on the Forum. Going to work on some pics next week when I get this vision thing sorted out. They are now saying I have macular problems which is all I need with two previous retinal tears.

Also appreciate the info on holsters and the M1 tool. My brother-in-law is a Vietnam vet and used to shoot competitively with military rifles at Camp Perry, etc. with Garands, M1A's, AR's, the whole deal. When I asked him what it was he said "I have a home for it".

It was with the Luger in the holster. Hoping some Nazi didn't take it off a GI in Europe. I'll bet it was being used with the weapon as a chamber brush.

Thanks again.

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03-25-2016, 04:18 PM	#21
Jon N User Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks JTD.... I really appreciate the caution from experienced traders, since I am just a newbie to military weapons in general. Desperado really hit the nail on the head. When I read my own words, I saw red flags everywhere in that post. Actually, I have been working on my friend to get it for about 20 years now and he finally relented. But he had strong sentimental attachment to it because he and his father in law were good friends. Figured out what the odd looking tool is... I'm told it is an M1 Garand tool. Hope someone can educate me on holster dates? Did the date on the original holster always match the date on the gun? Or could this be the original holster that was a leftover from the prior year (1939) when it was manufactured (1940)? Don't know how to contact individuals on the Forum directly or if that is possible. Wanted to let Ed Tinker know I am also in Pennsylvania and I have some other WWII stuff laying around that I may consider selling if it has any value.

03-26-2016, 11:47 AM	#24
Desperado User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Murphy, TX (near Dallas) Posts: 38 Thanks: 16 Thanked 46 Times in 16 Posts	I was gonna reply that your mystery tool sounded like an M1 Garand chamber brush, but someone obviously beat me to it. For what its worth, it probably came with your Luger because the chamber tool is for 30 cal which is close enough to 9mm that the tool would probably work to clean the chamber. My apologies to your long time friend. My comments were based upon what we were told. Knowing the guy for 30 years and trying to get the pistol for most of that time does change the picture a tad. That's a great price incidentally unless the pistol is a total rust bucket, which it isn't or you wouldn't be interested in it in the first place. I wouldn't be worried about it being "hot" if you know where its been for the last 30 years and you know the guy you are buying from, but if you are really concerned, I'll do the honorable thing because my comments were part of the problem here and give you $600 for it sight unseen. How's that for a deal to make things right? $50 profit and no worries about ownership. (I'm kidding you, of course. Sounds like you have a great new Luger. Enjoy

03-26-2016, 12:13 PM	#26
Jon N User Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No offense taken, Desperado. I am grateful to have all the input. Good one one the "generous" offer. Im thinking it is worth in the area of $1,000 to $1,200 but only based on my brief cruising on the Forum. Going to work on some pics next week when I get this vision thing sorted out. They are now saying I have macular problems which is all I need with two previous retinal tears. Also appreciate the info on holsters and the M1 tool. My brother-in-law is a Vietnam vet and used to shoot competitively with military rifles at Camp Perry, etc. with Garands, M1A's, AR's, the whole deal. When I asked him what it was he said "I have a home for it". It was with the Luger in the holster. Hoping some Nazi didn't take it off a GI in Europe. I'll bet it was being used with the weapon as a chamber brush. Thanks again.