1939 S/42 Luger Matching From George Anderson - Page 2

George Anderson · 02-28-2016, 03:45 PM

Look at Simpson's offering of '39 Mausers. Of the several he lists only one has numbered grips. I'd be more suspicious of that one than any of the others.

wlyon · 02-28-2016, 03:48 PM

Gun looks good, including the reddish color. I would not worry a moment about the grips. Some were, some were not. You have a were not. No big deal. Bill

Bill_in_VA · 02-28-2016, 05:09 PM

I'll second what Herman/abukafura said about George. I've bought severally Lugers from him, sight unseen and they've all been as-described. He's about as honest and as good a seller as you'll find. If he says the gun is righteous, it's righteous. Alvin's comment hold true too: your "gunsmith" questions it. How many Lugers has he personally handled? No offense intended against him, but I think it's a valid question to ask about his level of expertise. Ultimately though, if you're uncomfortable with the sale for any reason, stand down.
My .02

kurusu · 02-28-2016, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Danny,
1939 was a time when Mauser was having trouble with their "hot salt" bluing, having only switched in 1937 late from rust blue.

Many if not most of these dates exhibit reddish hues and loss of color on some parts that did not take as well.

I would agree with your guys assessment- if it were not a 1939 Mauser.

I'd say it is perfectly legit.

And I agree with Don. Typical Mauser.
The pistol looks excellent.

Lugerdoc · 02-28-2016, 05:48 PM

The number 86 inside the side plate is incorrect. From a different luger. TH

DavidJayUden · 02-28-2016, 06:22 PM

Tom:
Why is that? I would have expected 86 to be correct.
dju

George Anderson · 02-28-2016, 06:40 PM

The side plate is 100% correct. The inside number is always one higher that the first two digits: 86 versus 85.

Dannyjunkfish · 02-28-2016, 09:00 PM

The one digit higher is correct from my reaserch.

I forgot to ask George, is it import marked? Doubt it...

Thanks,
-Danny

George Anderson · 02-28-2016, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dannyjunkfish

The one digit higher is correct from my reaserch.

I forgot to ask George, is it import marked? Doubt it...

Thanks,
-Danny

No

Edward Tinker · 02-28-2016, 09:49 PM

George, I would give up - sounds like he has too many questions for me

And on too many forums...

Dannyjunkfish · 02-28-2016, 10:07 PM

Nothing wrong with being thorough

-Danny

Dannyjunkfish · 02-28-2016, 10:12 PM

I guess no ones time was 100% wasted, since I am
Going to be purchasing this one.

Thanks to George! And everyone else!

-Danny

DonVoigt · 02-28-2016, 11:21 PM

We always tell guys to do their homework and ask questions before they buy, so I can't fault him for asking questions.

I wish I had asked as many on my first buy.

But I do agree with Ed, one forum is enough. Same guys, same pistol, = same answers. Just gets confusing.

OIF2 · 02-28-2016, 11:40 PM

I would love to have that one.
Bob

Geo99 · 02-29-2016, 12:52 AM

There is nothing wrong with the grips as far as I can see - unnumbered grips are not a big deal on these later Mausers. I would buy this gun.

Are you sure the " black line" isn't just the wood grain? Just about every gun I have with walnut grips has a mix of brown/red & black in the grips.

- Geo

Sergio Natali · 02-29-2016, 03:43 AM

That 1939 S/42 looks right as rain to me, it seems to be a honest war-horse and quite a nice collectible.

DonVoigt · 02-29-2016, 08:53 AM

And Kudos to George-keoki, for being patient with this buyer and allowing this to be put on the board for scrutiny. A big thumbs up!

Dannyjunkfish · 03-10-2016, 10:35 AM

Got the Luger today and love it! Big shout out to everyone on this forum and especially George! Can't explain how excited I am and how grateful for everyone's help!

Thanks again everyone!

02-28-2016, 03:48 PM	#22
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,673 Thanks: 3,243 Thanked 2,658 Times in 988 Posts	Gun looks good, including the reddish color. I would not worry a moment about the grips. Some were, some were not. You have a were not. No big deal. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

02-28-2016, 05:09 PM	#23
Bill_in_VA Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Southwest Virginia Posts: 406 Thanks: 817 Thanked 614 Times in 222 Posts	I'll second what Herman/abukafura said about George. I've bought severally Lugers from him, sight unseen and they've all been as-described. He's about as honest and as good a seller as you'll find. If he says the gun is righteous, it's righteous. Alvin's comment hold true too: your "gunsmith" questions it. How many Lugers has he personally handled? No offense intended against him, but I think it's a valid question to ask about his level of expertise. Ultimately though, if you're uncomfortable with the sale for any reason, stand down. My .02 __________________ John 8:32 reive (riːv) vb (Military) (intr) dialect Scot and Northern English to go on a plundering raid [variant of reave] ˈreiver n e.g., " Some view the Border Reivers as loveable rogues."

02-28-2016, 05:48 PM	#25
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	The number 86 inside the side plate is incorrect. From a different luger. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

02-28-2016, 11:21 PM	#33
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,356 Times in 2,041 Posts	We always tell guys to do their homework and ask questions before they buy, so I can't fault him for asking questions. I wish I had asked as many on my first buy. But I do agree with Ed, one forum is enough. Same guys, same pistol, = same answers. Just gets confusing. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

02-29-2016, 12:52 AM	#35
Geo99 User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Whidbey Island WA Posts: 400 Thanks: 102 Thanked 127 Times in 75 Posts	There is nothing wrong with the grips as far as I can see - unnumbered grips are not a big deal on these later Mausers. I would buy this gun. Are you sure the " black line" isn't just the wood grain? Just about every gun I have with walnut grips has a mix of brown/red & black in the grips. - Geo __________________ "Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggie, until you can find a rock." - Will Rogers

02-28-2016, 03:45 PM	#21
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	Look at Simpson's offering of '39 Mausers. Of the several he lists only one has numbered grips. I'd be more suspicious of that one than any of the others.

02-28-2016, 06:22 PM	#26
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Tom: Why is that? I would have expected 86 to be correct. dju

02-28-2016, 06:40 PM	#27
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	The side plate is 100% correct. The inside number is always one higher that the first two digits: 86 versus 85.

02-28-2016, 09:00 PM	#28
Dannyjunkfish User Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 20 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	The one digit higher is correct from my reaserch. I forgot to ask George, is it import marked? Doubt it... Thanks, -Danny

02-28-2016, 09:49 PM	#30
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,974 Thanks: 2,072 Thanked 4,608 Times in 2,123 Posts	George, I would give up - sounds like he has too many questions for me And on too many forums...

02-28-2016, 10:07 PM	#31
Dannyjunkfish User Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 20 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Nothing wrong with being thorough -Danny

02-28-2016, 10:12 PM	#32
Dannyjunkfish User Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 20 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	I guess no ones time was 100% wasted, since I am Going to be purchasing this one. Thanks to George! And everyone else! -Danny

02-28-2016, 11:40 PM	#34
OIF2 User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: TEXAS Posts: 83 Thanks: 133 Thanked 73 Times in 25 Posts	I would love to have that one. Bob

02-29-2016, 03:43 AM	#36
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	That 1939 S/42 looks right as rain to me, it seems to be a honest war-horse and quite a nice collectible. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

02-29-2016, 08:53 AM	#37
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,356 Times in 2,041 Posts	And Kudos to George-keoki, for being patient with this buyer and allowing this to be put on the board for scrutiny. A big thumbs up! __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

03-10-2016, 10:35 AM	#38
Dannyjunkfish User Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 20 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Got the Luger today and love it! Big shout out to everyone on this forum and especially George! Can't explain how excited I am and how grateful for everyone's help! Thanks again everyone!

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