Informaton on P08

rbygrave · 03-10-2015, 08:37 PM

So this is my first luger and was wondering what anyone can tell me about it. I am in Canada so I would have to re-barrel it to keep. What I can see so far numbers don't match so that make me think this is just a shooter. Thanks in advance.

Richard

sheepherder · 03-10-2015, 09:04 PM

Toggle & frame are both Mauser, made in 1942.

And you are in luck - One of our forum members is a Canadian who re-barrels Lugers with a 4 1/4" barrel [IIRC] per Canadian law.

His username here is lugercollector - http://forum.lugerforum.com/member.php?u=101

His web page is http://www.lugercollector.com/

(I hope I'm not violating lugercollector's privacy)...

rbygrave · 03-10-2015, 09:21 PM

I know that was who I am hoping will do the work for me. I also have acquired another 1918 matching numbers, only one will get re-barreled so I am trying figure out which one because I can't keep the other.

sheepherder · 03-10-2015, 09:38 PM

How do you 'dispose' of 4" barreled handguns in Canada??? Do you have to turn them in somewhere, or can you sell them out-of-country???

DavidJayUden · 03-10-2015, 09:56 PM

And also can you retain the original 4" barrel?
dju

rbygrave · 03-10-2015, 10:15 PM

We have to destroy the old barrel. I actually can't own ether right now. I have a friend with a probib license who is arranging the transfers so I can get one re-barreled.

I just have a regular restricted license so barrel but be over 4" before it can be transferred into my name. I just happened to come across two, one will get transferred to prohib license holder the other I get. It a real shame and I don't understand the reasoning behind the law but that is just the way it is.

Richard

rhuff · 03-11-2015, 04:05 PM

If it were me in this situation(so glad that it is not) I would look both of the Lugers over very carefully for wear, missing/substituted parts, etc. and then pick the best one to have re-barreled, and make a shooter out of it....good luck.

K.Wilhelm · 03-11-2015, 06:39 PM

Could you get a longer barrel if you wanted- say a 6" or even a 4.75"? And would those choices be available?Bill

saab-bob · 03-11-2015, 06:42 PM

Richard
Please enlighten me.
So in Canada,its OK to own a luger with a 4 1/4 barrel? It not OK to have a 4 inch barrel?
Same caliber?

Wow! It would be interesting to read the convoluted logic that was used for that regulation.

Bob

sheepherder · 03-11-2015, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saab-bob

Richard
Please enlighten me.
So in Canada,its OK to own a luger with a 4 1/4 barrel? It not OK to have a 4 inch barrel?
Same caliber?

Wow! It would be interesting to read the convoluted logic that was used for that regulation.

Bob

I imagine it is similar to the law that 9x19 ammunition is illegal in Italy but not 9x21...

But in Canada, that would mean a Walther P38 is legal but not a P08 Luger???

A 1900AE is legal but not a byf P08 Luger???

DavidJayUden · 03-11-2015, 10:15 PM

But you have to admit, that our own gun laws make very little sense. It's just what happens when you let a committee design the horse...
dju

rbygrave · 03-11-2015, 10:17 PM

You are correct 4" no unless you have special (impossible to get) license. 4 1/4 or longer is fine with a standard restricted license. And a p38 is totally legal.

rbygrave · 03-11-2015, 10:29 PM

So here is the other luger, matching numbers as far as I can see (except for mag). Slight bruising on the grip.

I want to keep both

sheepherder · 03-12-2015, 08:43 AM

Can't you get one and your wife get the other???

alanint · 03-12-2015, 09:02 AM

Personally, I would rather see a mix master get butchered over an all-matching gun, while fully understanding that the matched gun will eventually get the same treatment, since it resides in Canada. It just won't be me doing it.

rbygrave · 03-12-2015, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepherder

Can't you get one and your wife get the other???

I am working on that

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Igrlik · 03-13-2015, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepherder

Toggle & frame are both Mauser, made in 1942.
...

Toggle can´t be 1942, because of Mauser logo

In 1942 just byf code or none should be there.

sheepherder · 03-13-2015, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Igrlik

Toggle can´t be 1942, because of Mauser logo

In 1942 just byf code or none should be there.

Right. My bad. The barrel extension was made in 1942. The frame is a Mauser [has the hump]. The toggle has the Mauser banner. Guesses for grabs what the rest is.

Geo99 · 03-15-2015, 06:36 PM

The first one (Mauser) you showed is your shooter. The 1918 is really in collectible condition - can it be preserved? It would really be a shame to destroy that original barrel 1918.

PS> I think the 4" restriction came from an intent to dis-allow the more concealable short barrel pistols. Unfortunately, a P38 is more concealable and easier to carry than a 4" Luger, so they screwed that up. They will always mess up when trying to apply a barrel length restriction, because revolvers & Lugers do not count the chamber in the barrel measurement, but 99% of auto-loaders do have a one-piece barrel/chamber .

- Geo

rbygrave · 03-15-2015, 11:02 PM

The only way I cam keep it is to re-barrel

. I would like to keep both, wife says I can

.

03-10-2015, 09:04 PM	#2
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,208 Thanks: 1,425 Thanked 4,474 Times in 2,343 Posts	Toggle & frame are both Mauser, made in 1942. And you are in luck - One of our forum members is a Canadian who re-barrels Lugers with a 4 1/4" barrel [IIRC] per Canadian law. His username here is lugercollector - http://forum.lugerforum.com/member.php?u=101 His web page is http://www.lugercollector.com/ (I hope I'm not violating lugercollector's privacy)... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

03-10-2015, 09:38 PM	#4
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,208 Thanks: 1,425 Thanked 4,474 Times in 2,343 Posts	How do you 'dispose' of 4" barreled handguns in Canada??? Do you have to turn them in somewhere, or can you sell them out-of-country??? __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

03-11-2015, 06:39 PM	#8
K.Wilhelm User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South Central Colorado Posts: 215 Thanks: 45 Thanked 110 Times in 66 Posts	Barrel replacement Could you get a longer barrel if you wanted- say a 6" or even a 4.75"? And would those choices be available?Bill __________________ NRA Endowment Life member Proud veteran of the Naval Security Group

03-11-2015, 06:42 PM	#9
saab-bob User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 459 Thanks: 774 Thanked 143 Times in 87 Posts	Richard Please enlighten me. So in Canada,its OK to own a luger with a 4 1/4 barrel? It not OK to have a 4 inch barrel? Same caliber? Wow! It would be interesting to read the convoluted logic that was used for that regulation. Bob __________________ "I think,therefore I own guns"

03-12-2015, 08:43 AM	#14
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,208 Thanks: 1,425 Thanked 4,474 Times in 2,343 Posts	Can't you get one and your wife get the other??? __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

03-10-2015, 09:21 PM	#3
rbygrave User Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I know that was who I am hoping will do the work for me. I also have acquired another 1918 matching numbers, only one will get re-barreled so I am trying figure out which one because I can't keep the other.

03-10-2015, 09:56 PM	#5
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	And also can you retain the original 4" barrel? dju

03-10-2015, 10:15 PM	#6
rbygrave User Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	We have to destroy the old barrel. I actually can't own ether right now. I have a friend with a probib license who is arranging the transfers so I can get one re-barreled. I just have a regular restricted license so barrel but be over 4" before it can be transferred into my name. I just happened to come across two, one will get transferred to prohib license holder the other I get. It a real shame and I don't understand the reasoning behind the law but that is just the way it is. Richard

03-11-2015, 04:05 PM	#7
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,314 Thanks: 2,746 Thanked 998 Times in 733 Posts	If it were me in this situation(so glad that it is not) I would look both of the Lugers over very carefully for wear, missing/substituted parts, etc. and then pick the best one to have re-barreled, and make a shooter out of it....good luck.

03-11-2015, 10:15 PM	#11
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	But you have to admit, that our own gun laws make very little sense. It's just what happens when you let a committee design the horse... dju

03-11-2015, 10:17 PM	#12
rbygrave User Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You are correct 4" no unless you have special (impossible to get) license. 4 1/4 or longer is fine with a standard restricted license. And a p38 is totally legal.

03-12-2015, 09:02 AM	#15
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Personally, I would rather see a mix master get butchered over an all-matching gun, while fully understanding that the matched gun will eventually get the same treatment, since it resides in Canada. It just won't be me doing it.

03-15-2015, 06:36 PM	#19
Geo99 User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Whidbey Island WA Posts: 400 Thanks: 102 Thanked 127 Times in 75 Posts	The first one (Mauser) you showed is your shooter. The 1918 is really in collectible condition - can it be preserved? It would really be a shame to destroy that original barrel 1918. PS> I think the 4" restriction came from an intent to dis-allow the more concealable short barrel pistols. Unfortunately, a P38 is more concealable and easier to carry than a 4" Luger, so they screwed that up. They will always mess up when trying to apply a barrel length restriction, because revolvers & Lugers do not count the chamber in the barrel measurement, but 99% of auto-loaders do have a one-piece barrel/chamber . - Geo __________________ "Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggie, until you can find a rock." - Will Rogers

03-15-2015, 11:02 PM	#20
rbygrave User Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The only way I cam keep it is to re-barrel . I would like to keep both, wife says I can .

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