Artillery sight slide...

nukem556 · 02-17-2012, 11:29 PM

...should it be rust blued or fire blued? How about the fine tune screws?

George Anderson · 02-18-2012, 11:21 AM

Rust blued, slide and screw.

tservo · 03-07-2012, 06:34 PM

Silly question from a neophyte: what's the difference between rust blued and fire blued? Is it a reference to the bluing process or the color of the final finish?

My grandfather's Arty is not in that great of shape, so I don't have a good idea of what the original bluing should look like (other than what I've seen in photos on the blog)

I've only been on this blog for a few months, but it seems apparent that this is where the brain trust of Luger collectors resides online.

-Aaron

Norme · 03-07-2012, 07:05 PM

Hi Aaron, Do these pictures help? Regards, Norm

alanint · 03-07-2012, 07:06 PM

Rust blue is a dull, even dark color and fire blue is generally a vivid, shini blue color

Ron Wood · 03-07-2012, 08:57 PM

Rust blue is a chemical process. Fire blue is a heat treatment.

DavidJayUden · 03-07-2012, 10:05 PM

Now SALT bluing is the process that replaced rust bluing in 1937. It is a simpler emersion process much less involved than rust bluing.
Fire bluing is, like Ron said, a heat treatment process. I only recall seeing it on small springy parts.
Did we answer your questions?
dju

John Sabato · 03-09-2012, 05:01 PM

Some front sights and grip screws have been seen to be fire blued.

tservo · 03-10-2012, 10:18 AM

Thanks guys. Those answers help a bunch. I posted some hi-res pics over in the new collectors forum (post dated 12-18-2011 titled "1917 DWM Artillery Luger"). The overall bluing on mine is pretty rough. Either the gun saw a lot of use or just didn't age well.

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Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,051 Thanks: 1,120 Thanked 5,287 Times in 1,728 Posts	Rust blue is a chemical process. Fire blue is a heat treatment. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

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John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,309 Times in 1,098 Posts	Some front sights and grip screws have been seen to be fire blued. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

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02-18-2012, 11:21 AM	#2
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	Rust blued, slide and screw.

03-07-2012, 06:34 PM	#3
tservo User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Silly question from a neophyte: what's the difference between rust blued and fire blued? Is it a reference to the bluing process or the color of the final finish? My grandfather's Arty is not in that great of shape, so I don't have a good idea of what the original bluing should look like (other than what I've seen in photos on the blog) I've only been on this blog for a few months, but it seems apparent that this is where the brain trust of Luger collectors resides online. -Aaron

03-07-2012, 07:06 PM	#5
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Rust blue is a dull, even dark color and fire blue is generally a vivid, shini blue color

03-07-2012, 10:05 PM	#7
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Now SALT bluing is the process that replaced rust bluing in 1937. It is a simpler emersion process much less involved than rust bluing. Fire bluing is, like Ron said, a heat treatment process. I only recall seeing it on small springy parts. Did we answer your questions? dju

03-10-2012, 10:18 AM	#9
tservo User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks guys. Those answers help a bunch. I posted some hi-res pics over in the new collectors forum (post dated 12-18-2011 titled "1917 DWM Artillery Luger"). The overall bluing on mine is pretty rough. Either the gun saw a lot of use or just didn't age well.