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I have a 1916 Mauser Artillery Luger and I'd like to find a correct magazine for it, I currently have a WW2 vintage magazine in it. Where would one go to look for this magazine, and how much might I expect to pay?
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http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1053463624 on ebay is $76 at the moment. I suspect you have a DWM or Erfurt Artillery and not a Mauser as Mauser Lugers were WWII Vintage, not WWI. Good Luck! ~Thor~
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Naturally, you are correct, it's a DWM. I was thinking of my other Luger when I typed the name, a senior moment. Thanks for the pointer to the magazine on eBay, I'm submitting a bid now, we'll see...
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The 9 in the grip suggests a 1920s vintage commercial variation. Does the Luger have a GERMANY stamp on the frame or barrel. An unnumbered or Germany marked wood bottom clip would probably be appropriate. Do the grips appear to be origional----or reproductions?
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There is no GERMANY stamp on the gun, and all the small parts are serialized, which suggests a military gun. The grips appear to be original, one has the last two digits of the serial number stamped inside, the other does not. I've attached a picture with the proofs from the right side of the chamber, the eagle proof also appears on the barrel. Other than the serialization, the only other numbers are 8,83 on the bottom of the barrel, right next to the serial number. The chamber is dated 1916, and the toggle is marked DWM.
I'm very interested in any information on this gun, to the best of my limited ability to judge, it appears all original and unmodified. http://www.armscenter.com/johnwill/M...y%20Proofs.jpg |
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Jim,
Looks like you got a nice 9mm 1916 DWM arty. The "Red Nine" grips are found on some 1920's commercial Lugers but were also found on some early vintage military artillery Lugers. No one knows why they were put on military arty Lugers since all military arties were 9mm. Your gun is not a commercial but 1920 commercial arties did come in either 9mm or 30 cal. The forums 'Owners Corner' has a 30 cal and I have a 9mm. The grips are collectibles in them selves. Your picture of the proof marks indicate that the gun may not have been messed with. The eagle on the barrel indicates either the Erfurt army proof mark or the army proof mark. And eagle with stick legs sticking out to the sides would be the Erfurt army proof mark. Erfurt army proof marks can be found throughout the production years. Your adjustible front sights were formally discontinued in 1917 but can be found on later years. The correct magazine would be hard to find since you would need to find a wood bottom mag with your serial number on it. Tough to do. Don Hallock comes out with a list from time to time and you might get lucky. Watch Ebay and look at all mismatched lugers at gun shows. But that is part of the fun of collecting. If you can find an unnumbered wood bottom it would look better than an alum bottom but it would not be correct. Nice going and good luck! Big Norm |
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Norm,
I realise that the "really" correct magazine would be a long shot, I just want to get a wood bottom magazine so it's "period correct", instead of the aluminum one. Other than a few dings from handling, I don't see any evidence that anything was altered on my gun, I was very pleased to find it buried in a Phoenix gunshop, and I talked the guy down to $700 and took it home. I smiled for quite a few days about my buy, I don't normally stumble across good deals in such a place. |
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