Snail Drum?

schwob · 12-29-2001, 01:54 PM

Can anyone tell me the dates of manufacture for the Snail drums,(Trommel Mags), models #1 and #2? I'd like to keep my 1917 DWM 'Arty' accurate for the time frame, many thanx.

12-29-2001, 02:26 PM

Hi .The TM-08 was patented in Fermany on July 8, 1916 by Friedrich Blum, of Budapest, Hungry. It was first introduced to infantry units in the spring of 1917.There were three contractors, B/N Gebruder Bing, Nurnberg,A.E.G., Berlin and VAF/C Vereinigte Automaten Fabriken,total number produced by B/N is estimated at over at over 750,000 and total production by A.E.G. were about 70,000. No production numbers are know for V.A.F......hope this helps ...Leo

Wolfgang Pfeifer · 12-30-2001, 03:39 PM

In addition to Leo's information I offer this. Gebrueder Bing of Nuernberg were manufacturers of Tinplate Toy Trains at that time and had the sheetmetal fabrication know how and the machinery to produce the Trommel Magazine. They were pressed (so to speak) into Magazine production by the arms requirements of WWI.

All of their Trains are highly prized collectibles, realizing thousands of Dollars at auctions. Relatively speaking, not many survived 2 wars, just like the Trommel magazine.

The brothers' products covered a broad spectrum; Toys and Wars.

Regards, Wolfgang

John Sabato · 01-02-2002, 03:33 PM

MikeP · 01-02-2002, 09:57 PM

I remember a discussion-possibly here-where someone had contacted these folks about making more drums and they said no problem as they had all the plans etc. But since they are high-cap mags no dice on sending them to USofA.

12-30-2001, 03:39 PM	#3
Wolfgang Pfeifer User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Snail Drum? In addition to Leo's information I offer this. Gebrueder Bing of Nuernberg were manufacturers of Tinplate Toy Trains at that time and had the sheetmetal fabrication know how and the machinery to produce the Trommel Magazine. They were pressed (so to speak) into Magazine production by the arms requirements of WWI. All of their Trains are highly prized collectibles, realizing thousands of Dollars at auctions. Relatively speaking, not many survived 2 wars, just like the Trommel magazine. The brothers' products covered a broad spectrum; Toys and Wars. Regards, Wolfgang

01-02-2002, 03:33 PM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,309 Times in 1,098 Posts	Great Information! thanks Wolfgang! (EOM)

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MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	Re: Great Information! thanks Wolfgang! I remember a discussion-possibly here-where someone had contacted these folks about making more drums and they said no problem as they had all the plans etc. But since they are high-cap mags no dice on sending them to USofA.

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12-29-2001, 01:54 PM	#1
schwob RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Coast of Maine Posts: 273 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Snail Drum? Can anyone tell me the dates of manufacture for the Snail drums,(Trommel Mags), models #1 and #2? I'd like to keep my 1917 DWM 'Arty' accurate for the time frame, many thanx.

12-29-2001, 02:26 PM	#2
Leo Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Snail Drum? Hi .The TM-08 was patented in Fermany on July 8, 1916 by Friedrich Blum, of Budapest, Hungry. It was first introduced to infantry units in the spring of 1917.There were three contractors, B/N Gebruder Bing, Nurnberg,A.E.G., Berlin and VAF/C Vereinigte Automaten Fabriken,total number produced by B/N is estimated at over at over 750,000 and total production by A.E.G. were about 70,000. No production numbers are know for V.A.F......hope this helps ...Leo