Help ID DWM

Greetings amigos! I have recently acquired my first Luger and would like to ask your help to ID her. As so far as I can figure out from the Dwight Gruber db (Thanks Dwight!), the s/n 6714 will make her an TE (test eagle) of which I have no idea other than the early process of US army choosing new standard handgun. The trigger plate on 6714 calls my attention because it is diferent from all others I've seen in pics, but I think it is a gunsmith work other than factory customizing. here are pics:




Sorry for the awful grips, I will replace ASAP (here in Mexico it is not easy to supply one self at will).

Saludos, and thanks in advance for your input.

[Edward Tinker]

welcome to the forum. A test eagle would have an eagle on the top, PLUS a toggle from a 1900, this has a 1906 or 1908 toggle.

better pictures, both sides and of the front of the frame would helpd us, help you.


Ed

[LugerVern]

Interesting gun, extra pictures will be a must.
Make sure you include a top view.
Your gun has seen some extensive use but has some characteristics that I find very interesting. Your left frame rail is straight, I have never seen this before, and your barrel ring appears beveled so I find myself wondering what model you have or what has happen to your gun over the years.

You appear to have a type â??Vâ?� frame and this goes with the relieved sear so post 1916 P08 9mm is a basic guess. It is too early to tell if it is a commercial or military model.

The odds of this being a Test Eagle are not real good.

We will wait for some more pictures.

Thanks for posting

Vern

[Pete Ebbink]

Be careful with this one when it is loaded/chambered.

With the modified side plate, if you push in the worng area along the trigger lever or sear bar, you could make it go "bang" without your finger on the trigger...

Thanks for the heads up... The trigger pressure is very hair-line (less than 2 pounds me thinks) and at first I thought it was some kind of target trick but only would work if left handed... anyway point well taken.

Here are more pics:





LugerVern thanks also for the preliminary prognosis. Even though 6714 has seen lots of use (or misuse) I am proud to have her in my small collection. These are wonderful pistols!

here is another top view

[LugerVern]

Thanks for the extra pictures

It appears that you have what we call a suffix to your serial number an â??Lâ?� I think.
So, 6714 L, also I see a crown N proof on the toggle.
When added to the Type V frame, relieved sear I am guessing that you have what we call a 1920 Commercial Luger.
I may have told you wrong on the caliber, it may very well be 30 Cal and you need to verify this. A simple test is to take a pencil with eraser and stick in the front of the barrel, if there is some resistance it is 30 Cal, if none a 9MM

Yes, all Lugers are good to have. Yours has some great history to it, do you know much about who owned it before you? Who the gun smith was? It appears to me that the gun spent much time in the desert â??nothing escapes the sand in the desert.


Thanks for posting

Vern

Thanks for the info on year and model. I kinda thought it was commercial model since no military markings are to be found anywhere. here are so more pics I took after I figured out how to strip her.




is this magazine release spring original or some kinda put together by smith?



it seems kinda low tech to me but it works just the same.

Why is it called a "V" frame? are there major differences between models?

Thanks for your help.

[Edward Tinker]

V as in roman numeral; http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...threadid=14311


I am sure you want it clean, but I never take my lugers all the way down... however there are lots of folks that do...

Surprisingly, she is easier to strip than a Colt .45 (field strip is easy, complete strip is for armorer). This old girl really needed a good take down, there was rust everywhere

The Early Frame tutorial by Ron Wood was much appreciated. Thanks!

[MFC]

The mag. release spring is correct.
Mike C.

[Lugerdoc]

I believe that your mag release button has been recheckered, but considering the heavy buffing on the rest of the gun, it probably makes little difference. If you need a replacement side plate, etc. I have most parts in stock. hellerarms@webtv.net